You have to see the irony, well if one can join the pretty obvious dots between those assertions anyway. 
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Indeed. Cognitive dissonance is a powerful force. One man’s fairy tails is another man’s religion.
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Is merely asserted to exist, and within the pages of a goat herder mythology littered with ridiculous assertions about the natural world at that. Such as that nonsense about genetics being controlled by coloured sticks, which was destroyed when a 19th century monk taught us how genetics actually operates, and while doing so, launched modern genetics as a properly constituted scientific discipline.
Bollocks.
Astrophysicists have known for decades that the Earth was formed by the action of gravity on the protoplanetary disc surrounding the early Sun. Indeed, we have images of the process taking place, in different stages, in other star systems, courtesy of a large number of photographs taken by cameras attached to space based telescopes.
Except that there are real live organisms that possess a single horn, upon which the requisite legends could have been based. Such as the Indian Rhinoceros, Rhinoceros unicornis. Hree’s a nice photo of that very animal.
I see others have also alighted upon the fact that your mythology mentions unicorns as if they actually exist. But that’s an embarrassment for your mythology you’ll almost certainly run away from.
Nonsense assertions are a free-fire zone for whatever invective the critic thereof chooses to deploy. Do learn how proper discourse is conducted.
Given the number of times we’ve seen mythology fanboys like you post well poisoning assertions about us here, you might want to tell this to those other mythology fanboys.
Thus far, I and others here have needed your cartoon magic man in much the same way we need rabies. Especially as your cartoon magic man has been used as a pretext by several of your ilk, to corrupt and pervert science education, stifle medical research, and warp the business of policy making and the operation of a properly constituted civil society.
Given the manifest malign influence your cartoon magic man exerts, through its assorted adherents and their conniving and scheming to force their mythology down everyone else’s throats, your assertionj rings hollow to those of us who have observed this.
Indeed, I’m minded to note at this juncture, that your cartoon magic man has never bothered to put in an appearance, in a manner that would be unambiguously obvious to anyone regardless of any prior belief therein. Instead, if this entity exists, it appears to be content to let various manifestly ill-equipped mythology fanboys to do its talking for it.
Indeed, you provide an example of how ill-equipped you and your ilk are to lecture anyone on any topic, courtesy of the fact that you needed to be spoon fed with respect to the presence of water on this planet. But I’m used to seeing your ilk think that a magic man is needed to “explain” observables that have already been provided with scientific explanations that are proper explanations, and more than sufficient for the task. That those scientific explanations are more than sufficient for the task, renders your cartoon magic man superfluous to requirements and irrelevant.
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Unicorns are the most high, the creator of some fairy tale land or other.
God is a fairy tale creation and before you try to say something disrespectful we can have a difference of opinion and argue civility towards each other, but do not mock my unicorn, one day you may need it.
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The above is a bad argument. Yes, the word unicorn is in the KJV 6 separate times, but the KJV was commissioned in 1604 at that point the mythology of unicorns was already well established. But the original Hebrew word has nothing to do with magical fairy ponies with a single horn. The word unicorn in KJV is translated from a root word that means wild ox. Modern translations correct this error such as in the NIV and NLT. Also, what makes you so sure that Unicorns didn’t exist in some form? Uni means one and corn means horn so we are talking about a one horned animal here. Such an animal could have existed, you have no idea if there was a wild cow that had a single horn, as is depicted in ancient chinses, Greek and Japanese art. You don’t really even know if there wasn’t an ancient illusive horse like animal that existed but went extinct just before the advent of modern naturalism and photographs. I would also like to point out that there are rhinos with a single horn. This scripture in KJV is actually a very good description of a rhino Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? Or will he harrow the valleys after thee? Job 39:10 As of yet I am unaware of anyone taming and using a rhino as a draft animal. The unicorn is also said in the KJV to have tremendous strength.
Look one of my favorite pass times is roasting religious people but if were goanna do it lets put a bit of effort into it and not attack straw men.
I would like to point out that people in general don’t really like it when you mock anything they believe in I can imagine everybody here would get pretty pissed off if I spent all my time on the forum mocking Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris. And the key word here is mocking asking why people get offended when you mock their God is like asking why people poop! It’s what we do Brahhh, were people! Leaders go to war and kill each other because somebody said that their wife was fat. I don’t think most theists have a problem with you not believing in God especially if you keep it to yourself, but God is real to them so if you mock God of course they will get agitated. Tell a Taylor Swift fan that that Taylor is a crappy singer with dumb lyrics, and you will unleash a hell storm on your head. Or go to an anime festival and mock somebody’s favorite character. try it 
the character doesn’t exist the character isn’t even an actor, it’s a Freakin cartoon but you start making fun of hello Kitty and you’ll prob start a brawl. What’s funny is you would start a brawl over hello Kitty and everybody who would be smashing your face in doesn’t even believe she is real. But it doesn’t matter people will still get mad. With religions we are talking about people who believe God is their friend and savior so of course they are going to get mad.
We can argue that religious people shouldn’t be offended by people mocking their deity but while we’re
at it I should argue that rats need to slow down their rate of procreation cause it’s really annoying to us humans. Aint gonna Happen!! Being offended is what humans do. It can’t be changed it can only be observed and chuckled at by the select few who have the ability to transcend such behavior.
My favorite philosopher said, “mess with the bull private you gonna get the horns”(thumbs up to the person who recognizes that movie quote) Don’t be surprised when people don’t like you making fun of their beliefs.
If their god was real, I imagine it wouldn’t need them to come to it’s defense. Can’t an almighty deity pop in and say “I’m real?”
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You’ve never read the original Hebrew.
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You are correct if God is real defending him is Unnecessary. But my point in the original post was that people will still get offended if you mock any belief they have. People defend their favorite flavor of ice cream it’s no wonder they would defend their idea of God. Defending anything you believe or like is human nature I have seen Atheists get mad if you mock the things they believe in or like. We all do it.
Of course, he could, if he decided to. My question is why you would assume that a deity that had the power to make the universe we are in would really care whether you mock him or not. And why would he pop in just to see you seems kind of arrogant, to think you are a blip on his radar.
And to argue for the theist for a moment I thought that was the claim they make that God does occasionally pop in from time to time just to keep the faith going. But you as a human can’t control him that’s why he is… uh… well God. If you could command him to show up on command, he would be Genie not a God. A smart theist would say God will show up when he is good and ready and your demanding, he proves himself to you is pointless.
OMG everybody God is here he has made his presence known Nyarlathotep is God in disguise he magically knows that I have never read the original Greek. Even though I am an anonymous poster on this site, and he doesn’t know anything about me. A logical person would correct me if I was wrong but not the Almighty Nyarlathotep he whent straight to the core of the issue and said I have never read the greek Hallelujah please tell me oh Great God Nyarlathotep what is the meaning to life and how can I get free Netflix. I must go out and spread the good news God is among us. Praise be!!!
Both of those statements seem very false; if for no other reason than I didn’t say anything about Greek.
I know you haven’t read the original Hebrew because that was lost thousands of years ago. If you somehow do have it, please sent it to a museum so others can read it.
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Oh I’m sorry, please forgive me I thought you were trolling me. Yes, that shows how stupid I am that I roasted you when I made such a clear error. I should have been clearer and not said the Original Hebrew. I should have said Hebrew. I overreacted. What I meant was the Original Hebrew text that the English Bible was translated from. Once again, I appreciate the feedback on that. And me using the term Greek instead of Hebrew is priceless stupidity you can’t pay for entertainment like that. It seems like you are very educated and detail oriented Nyarlathotep are there any other critiques you have of my original post. Im here to learn, and have fun.
So the most published version of the bible is BS? I don’t think you’ll get many disagreeing with you tbh, but it was a sound argument if you look at the context, and certainly more sound than the false equivalence it was addressing from @Soldier4christ.
Who cares, read the original claim by @Soldier4christ for proper context.
Sigh, I am going to tire of repeating myself, look at the thread for context.
Argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy, in logic nothing is true because it cannot be disproved.
It wasn’t a straw man, read the thread for context. Fuck it I will do the heavy lifting for you…
That was the origin, from @Soldier4christ’s claim to my question that he /she never even tried to answer, quelle surprise. This was his / her shifting of the goal posts reply…
This is true, but irrelevant, since no one is forced to come here to peddle their superstitious wares, also the idea that any belief should be beyond criticism or ridicule, is the very definition of dogmatism and bigotry.
Who cares, no one is entitled to rinfence their claims from critical scrutiny, especially theists who come here to an atheist debate forum.
The first assertion is a straw man fallacy, and the second a false equivalence fallacy. Theists can get as mad as they want, and the procreation of rats is only a problem for me if they are spreading disease that crosses over into the human population.
Which does rather beg the question why you’re asking us not to offend theists who have taken the time to seek out the opinions of atheists in a an atheist debate forum?
What a spectacularly stupid assertion, firstly we are in an atheist debate forum, so they must have sought out our atheist opinions if they come here, secondly I will keep my lack of theistic belief to myself when all theists keep their unevidenced superstition to themselves, atheists are not the ones building churches and knocking on doors… 
One could say the same to theists coming here to peddle their superstitious warses of course. If they don’t like their vapid and irrational beliefs being challenged, then don’t seek out people who don’t share them, and in a debate forum at that. Otherwise cry me a fucking river… 
Now that’s a straw man, as I doubt anyone here is ever surprised at the histrionics and tantrums visiting theists resort to when their vapid unevidenced superstitions are challenged.
Good analogy, two entirely subjective opinions…
So what, a belief either has objective merit and is rational, or it is not, I could care less who is making the claim, or how petulant they become when it is challenged. My only concern is whether it is true or not…
Care to objectively evidence that claim? Also explain how someone claiming in their profile to be an agnostic is making claims about the nature and existence of a deity?
Agnosticism
noun
- a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.
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An agnostic in my world simply claims you cant prove logically god exists or doesn’t. I can argue whatever side I want to its my party.
Sure its in the definition of the word God look it up.
the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.
Pretty sure if we are talking about god we are talking about a being who by definition can do whatever he wants to.
And you talk about poofs and all that crap. I say you cant logically prove anything so its just fun and games to me, a way to kill time.
Well it certainly isn’t an idle pursuit, a way to kill time, for a great number of people who have, and want, to make their brand of god worship the law of the land. It’s literally killing people. So what sounds to me like flippancy on your part is the sort of attitude that is, imo, akin to agar in a petri dish feeding the virus.
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So you’re not an agnostic, and have just made up your own subjective definition for the word. I invite you to see how pointless and misleading that is.
You can post anything you like no matter how erroneous or idiotic yes, no, it is most definitely not “your party”. This is a public debate forum, so anyone else is entitled to comment on anything they are minded to, again to claim you are an agnostic, and then go on to make claims about the nature and existence of any deity is absurdly contradictory.
No it isn’t, I think perhaps you are the one who needs to learn to consult a dictionary before using words, as you’re wrong again.
God
noun
- (in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.
- (in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.
“a moon god”
Nope, that would depend on the deity being imagined, but of course as an agnostic you believe nothing is known or can be known about the nature of god, nor does quoting the dictionary definition objectively evidence your claim. maybe you need to look up the word objective as well?
You’re wrong about that as well, here’s a link explaining rules of inference and logical proofs.
This explains why you haven’t bothered to educate yourself on the topic at all, not even to learn what the words you’re using mean, it also sounds like a lame excuse to revel in that ignorance, if you think it will deflect criticism of your claims here, then true to form you are very wrong. Perhaps social media platforms would be more apropos for this kind of trolling “fun and games”.
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Brilliant deduction Sheldon i am a devout Christian, who had a day off and and got inspired to get on an atheists forum just to spout random nonsense. Everything I said was nonsense, at least to you. I used to be obsessed with logic and proofs like you. I wanted to know science and build a theory of the universe. But as I reasoned with myself I found that even the best of arguments could always be dissected and counterargued in some way. The cycle of arguments and proofs is a bottomless pit. Their is always another question, and you can always reexamine an argument you have already made and question its validity. At the end of the day a person must step back from the reason and make the choice to believe in what he sees in front of him. You must have faith that your eyes are not deceiving you and that all your most brilliant thoughts are not just an illusion generated by a Boltzman brain. I believe Jesus Christ is the son of God but I cant prove it to you just as you cannot prove to me that he he isn’t real. By faith i believe in him and by faith you do not believe in him. You say you are logical but I can just throw my hands into the air and say i’m to stupid to understand your arguments and your logic and science. Which is true that’s why I am a Christian. I as a person am not intelligent enough to know what truth is I am a blind man stumbling in the dark. So I need help, who will I ask for this help? Not another person such as myself why would i trust another man to lead me to the truth. Why not trust a god who knows what its like to be a man. You put faith into your own reason and ability to discern truth I put my Faith into God. This forum has convinced me of the existence of a hell, this surely must be a small piece of hell, a place where fools and blind men sit and tear each other apart argue and dispute for ever. They know they are going to die, that a day of reckoning will come. But they refuse to have hope. I feel as if the things i have read in your threads have been a descent into the underworld. It was enlightening but I will now return back to the land of the living and leave you to pick apart everything you see. I won’t waste any more time casting pearls before swine. I will prob never return to this forum the stinch of sulfur really gets to me. Your discussions have deepened my convictions that their is a god and if such a hell exists as this forum then heaven must exist somewhere. I will leave you with this try setting your reason aside someday cracking open the New Testament and and instead of doubting and picking it apart ask the question what if this guy Jesus was right.
About what? That he was divine? That greeks/Samaritans were dogs? What was he right about? If he even existed at all?
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I have flagged this rambling disjointed rant, as he has posted it elsewhere, how many words are needed to admit he is an illiterate duplicitous troll is open to question, but it is not this many surely, and certainly not twice.
If anyone wants to read a response to the first one it’s HERE.
What a clown…
I generally put effort in when it’s due which you’ll note from my other posts. This guy, @Soldier4christ, is behaving more like a Jesus bot than a person by just stating baseless claims and not engaging with any serious argumentation. If he does, I will.
There is no strawman here. A strawman argument is where someone incorrectly states the argument of someone else and knocks that down instead of their actual argument. He said this:
One thing I always like to bring up to religious people is where is the fantasy line? Why is a unicorn made up, but an all knowing god impregnating a married teenager and going on a suicide mission to change some rule he himself created not made up?
I was a Christian for 28 years, I know that rhinos exist and that in the bible that the “unicorn” was thought to be some kind of ox.
This is the appeal to ignorance fallacy. The bible makes the claim and we’ll treat it as unverified until we have evidence. We don’t assume anything today written on the internet is real without proof, why would I do that for any other document. Sadly, it is not the most ridiculous thing in the bible.
To your point, if I started the argument by saying that they believe in unicorns, unicorns are clearly not real, so the bible must be made up, then yes, that would be several fallacies and would be a terrible argument, but that’s not what was said.
I know they do get upset; I am an atheist living in Texas. My point is that it makes no logical sense. If their god really is all powerful, all knowing, and omnipresent, then there is absolutely no need to jump to his defense. He can handle it. I also find it fascinating that @Soldier4christ implied were sinners and going to hell, which I might add, can be considered offensive.
This is a very human way of dealing with insult that humanity should best stop doing. For me, I don’t care, and by that I mean, I don’t hold anything sacred. As far as I’m concerned we are all hairless apes, each screwed up in their own special way. Make fun of whatever, even me, why would should I care? Why should I get myself upset over something that is nearly meaningless?
In course of these kinds of debates, I generally don’t like pushing anything that can be perceived as an insult. This bot, I mean guy, is just pushing stuff on us, not really engaging, and then getting upset when we state that we treat his god as a fairytale since he does not have evidence for his claims. We do the exact same for any other claim. If he is going to be that thinned skinned on an Atheist internet forum, snowflake should go home.
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He’s trolling, he’s a theist, as if we couldn’t see that from his asinine reasoning.
Against my better instincts I waited to see how this one panned out, but his spiel had alarm bells ringing from the off.
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