It wasn’t a brilliant deduction, only an illiterate moron could miss it. The random nonsense all came from you, so well done.
Clearly, I told you that. trolling however is a breach of forum guidelines, so don’t be surprised if your pointless jolly is short lived.
I don’t believe you, I think you haven’t even the most basic grasp of what logic is, or what it tries to achieve.
Well there you go, clueless facile nonsense. Do you imagine that declaring yourself a lying troll will make us less inclined to expose your facile idiocy to critical scrutiny?
Nope, your claims were cleary irrational erroneous guff right out of the box, so you’re wrong again, as I said I doubt you have even the vaguest idea of what makes arguments strong / weak, or why some people find them compelling and others see through them.
Their, is a possessive pronoun champ.
Indeed, I’d go as far as to say this was a necessary requirement to anyone with any claim to an open mind, but if your reasoning is flawed then all your arguments will be as well, nothing in your posts thus far suggests to me you know how to create or assess strong arguments from weak ones.
Utter nonsense, one can do this, but the idea one should do this is absurd if one cares whether what one believes is true, and this confirms what I have just said, you are basing your arguments on what you have subjectively decided to believe, rather than basing what you believe on the merits of the arguments and evidence that support it.
Nonsense again, since religious faith is as about as much use to an atheist as a parachute is to a scuba diver, and I’d bet right know that without checking you don’t know what the definition of religious faith is, or how to create paragraphs apparently, as your verbiage is starting to hurt my eyes.
It is an objective fact that our sense can easily deceive us, so having faith they don’t is the very definition of deluding oneself.
- I never asked for proof, just that you demonstrate some objective evidence, without any I can only remain disbelieving, whatever the claim. Nor have I ever claimed Jesus was not the son of a deity, I simply don’t believe the claim he was, since there is no objective evidence to support it.
- Basing belief on not being able to disprove something is a textbook argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy, again.
Crack on, but a more meaningless claim is hard to imagine.
Wrong again, even assuming you are using the dictionary definition of faith, and disingenuously equating it with the religious definition, since a lack or absence of belief must necessarily be our starting point every time, then when we are presented with a claim to examine our position can either move to belief if we see sufficient reason, or stay at disbelief if we remain unconvinced, NB not knowing is an absurd reason to believe, so I would still remain dubious or disbelieving, and not just about god claims, but about all claims.
Nope, I have never made this claim, nor would I incidentally.
Too not to, and ignorance is a pretty lame excuse to base belief or the denial of objective facts and rational arguments on. However if it makes you happy to revel in your ignorance that is your choice. I prefer to try and put a small dent in my own ignorance, and shall strive to do so until I am no longer able, then it’s hello darkness my old friend.
It’s not my logic or my science, those are methodologies, one for objectively studying the natural physical world and universe, and the other for identifying weak and poor reasoning, and creating strong and well reasoned arguments.
You believe in a Christian deity because you think you’re too stupid to reason well, or grasp how the methods of science strive to objectively understand reality? Seriously?
At the very least you might try not contradicting the best methods we have, like logic and science. However you seem content to pretend your reasoning is sound, so I fear this response will only be of use to others, who with an open mind want to know what is true and what not.
Circular reasoning fallacy, Google it and learn why the claim is a very weak argument. I also invite you to try and imagine how stupid it is to tell someone to trust a deity they don’t believe exists.
If you mean I trust the methods of science and logic, because they produce objectively quantifiable results that indicate they are far superior methods for understanding reality than anything else, then yes, but then it’d be pretty stupid to ignore that. Again I don’t think you know how religious faith is defined.
Fools? Given your previous assertions I don’t think you’re in any position to call anyone else’s reasoning foolish, and debating for the sake of it is something I and others enjoy very much, so even though I don’t believe in your imaginary posthumous torture chamber, if it involved endless debate it sounds quite appealing.
That’s an objective fact.
I don’t believe you, and your spiel so far is about as poorly reasoned and weakly constructed as I’ve seen, and without one shred of objective evidence, the fact you dishonestly came here to troll speaks volumes, as I don’t think you are as convinced as you’re now trying to suggest, having been found out.
Wrong again, you are consistent at least, and while I cannot speak for other atheists, I certainly hope, I would find life much harder without hope, and it is hard to imagine I am unique in that sense, I just don’t indulge weak subjective superstitious beliefs, and try to avoid biased wishful thinking.
Yes, you do seem woeful ill equipped for debate, and completely out of your depth.
I doubt that, a mind as closed as yours is rarely enlightened by anything they aren’t blindly already believing.
I shall endeavour to live with the disappointment.
Anymore is one word champ, if one is going to insult people, it might be wise (for you anyway) not to choose people with a basic level of literacy, and thus simply make yourself look a cunt into the bargain.
Well when the moderators see your admission of trolling it may not be a choice, but do try not to let the door hit you in the arse on the way out, there’s a good chap. Oh and be sure to recommend us to all your literate curious open minded friends, if you have any, which I seriously doubt.
Their is a possessive pronoun champ, and of course it has, that is how an utterly closed mind reacts to any and all ideas that challenge it’s myopic blind adherence to their subjective belief, dear oh dear.
No thank you, however if for some inexplicable reason I ever felt the urge to do this, I can always use your posts as a brilliant example…fish in a barrel, seriously.
I’ve read it thank you, you might follow your own advice, and learn that it is anonymous hearsay, written decades after the events it purports to describe, in a language different from that spoken, and from an epoch of extreme credulity, superstition and ignorance, traits you have admitted that you’re keen to emulate, so kudos as your posts suggest you’re making a grand job of that.
False dichotomy fallacy, well done for ending your verbiage as blindly irrationally as you commenced it. I think it must be time for the nurses to cut your fruit into your bowl for you now, so bye. Oh let me get both doors for you, so you and your ego can leave easily…