I’ve accepted that I am fully capable of inflicting evil (as defined by @Get_off_my_lawn) - my ex didn’t want to be my “ex”. My ex religion has defined me as an apostate (ohhhh most evil one 
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Hmmmm 
the headhunter. Accepted group social behaviour. Most likely a spiritual experience as well. Evil in this context, within the society, would most likely be a vegetarian.
Unless you have Evidence to the contrary you can safely assume I was born on this planet and no proof is required.
If you need more information then I suggest you contact the Silly Questions department. Sid
We have to rule out Klingons.
Was this supposed to be a substantive response to my post? You failed if so.
Still waiting for you to provide evidence for your cartoon magic man. “My mythology says so” isn’t evidence for a cartoon magic man, it’s evidence for the propensity of Bronze Age nomads to make shit up.
He can’t. He couldn’t if he tried. He’s just one of those idiots that thinks if he says it enough and believes it enough, it’ll pop into existence. Nope, sorry. I’m afraid the world doesn’t work that way. I wish I had a magical debit card that never runs out of money. Magic sounds like it would be a lot of fun if it were to exist. Just because Christians want a thing to exist, doesn’t make it so. And when there’s no objective evidence, they still never shut up about it. They’re like that little kid in the back seat whose constantly asking “Are we there yet?” and the answer is NO. I’m afraid that Richeydale is too far gone to have a rational conversation.
I said nothing about proof being required. I asked if you could prove you were born on this planet. At this point; is it safe to assume that you can not?
So the sad thing that none of you have thought through is that it is humanly impossible for you to live within the definition of true atheism.
This is a common misconception. I have made this point over and over again . God is not the author of evil. God is the author of the living Bible , which contains historical record of what man has done of man’s own accord - like crucifying his creator. This was an act that man created in a desperate attempt to maintain power and control over other men.
You know nothing about atheism. You just THINK you do. You can’t handle anyone not believing in the existence of a god. Well atheists exist and I myself personally do not believe in Sky Fathers. It is not your place to tell me what I do or do not believe. I don’t believe gods exist, period and I’m not afraid to die. I used to be depressed and suicidal which was caused by my father disowning me and my mom shoving her Baptist denomination down my throat.
Shifting the Burden of Proof. Dishonest.
I was you stupid fucking dick. I fell asleep at the wheel of my car and almost died. I didn’t pray once to a god.
Wrong again.
Wrong.
Claim. What objective evidence can you demonstrate for the existence for any deity?
Argumentum Ad Populum. Prove with objective evidence that a god exists! Meet your Burden of Proof!
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It might interest you to know that over the years I have been involved in more life-threatening situations than I can even begin to remember. (And a few others on here have also had their fair share of such.) And while I cannot speak for the others, I can absolutely assure you it never ONCE crossed my mind to pray to your imaginary Sky Daddy during any of my life-or-death encounters. And that was mostly BEFORE I ever even determined I am an atheist. Most often during those situations I was just a bit preoccupied with simply trying to stay alive. Stopping to pray just wasn’t a priority at the time. Hell, for that matter, it wasn’t even so much as a distant thought or consideration.
Hmmm… … Look at it this way… Your god supposedly controls everything according to its “Perfect Plan”. In which case, your god put me in those situations on purpose. Therefore, it seems rather silly that I should pray to ask your god to save me. That would be like asking him to alter his perfect plan. It would be like telling your god he is wrong. That would simply be disrespectful to your Ultimate Authority Figure… Wait a second… … Hmmm… Hey! Are you trying to say I’m a rude motherfucker? 
I also, @Richeydale67.
Mounting real world evidence is a pain in the ass, isn’t it?
What pisses me off is that he patronizes us about his imaginary definition of what Atheism is. He can’t grasp that someone can completely have no belief towards the idea of a god.
That is true. the definition of the christian god is an unfalsifiable proposition. It can not be tested. One can not prove a god exists, nor can one prove a god does not exist.
But most atheist do not claim there is no god, they state they lack a belief in a god. I am one, and my reason is that there is not sufficient evidence or a compelling argument to prove a god.
On Dec 10 2010 I had an emergency operation, a procedure I had on the 7th went sideways. I knew I was in trouble, I knew my odds of surviving the operation was questionable. When they have to call in surgeons at 10:00 PM Friday night, there is no room for error and the clock is ticking. The nurses placed me on the gurney and wheeled me into the operating theater with haste. When they wheeled me in on the 7th it was a much slower and more casual and relaxed pace.
As I stared up and watched the ceiling tiles and hallway lights flick past, my thoughts never turned towards any god, nor did I do any pleading. I was concerned about my wife, my dog, and the friends and family I might leave behind. My concern was for them, especially my wife.
The last thought I had was “well, if I do not wake up, I will never know. If I wake up, that’s good”.
I am sorry my personal testimony dismantled your “there are no atheists in foxholes” argument, but it is not true.
P.S. I was so fucked up from my problem that they lost my vital signs twice while on the operating room table. I had at least 4 CAT scans, lots of antibiotics, three hoses sticking out of my abdomen for draining, I spent three days in ICU and another three weeks in the hospital before they sent me home, to have a nurse visit me daily for the next three months.
I never appealed to any god because I understand that it was the fine doctors and modern medicine that saved me.
Please clarify. Are you talking about Atum? Or maybe Nammu? What about Enki? Oh, wait, you must be talking about Marduk. Of course, we can’t rule out Bunjil or Bumba. Okay, okay. I give up. Just tell us which of the several hundred creator gods we should be worshipping. I certainly don’t want to fuck up and pick the wrong one.
The christian god is very specific, worship me and no one else. First commandment. And we know this christian god is nasty and vindictive. If you worship a “false” god, you are going to be fucked over for eternity. The problem is that there are over 10,000 different religions. One must anticipate that there are other nasty and vindictive gods just like the christian one. And if it is just 10%, then your odds are only 1/1,000 you pick the right one and don’t go to hell.
I’m glad you made it through your surgery.
My story is a lot less severe. About 14 years ago I had to take my ex wife to the airport 2 hours away from where we lived at 4 in the morning. She was taking a flight to Florida to see her mom. When we got to the airport, we waited til 9 for her to get on her flight. I was dog tired.
On the way back, I became extremely relaxed. My eyes kept getting heavier and heavier. Finally I passed out at the wheel. It was a good sleep, but the problem was I slowly woke up to feeling the car grinding and as I looked around I was spinning in circles down the middle grassy area that separated traffic, people going one way or the other on the highway.
None of @Richeydale67’s postulate about praying to a god occurred to me at ALL nor do I believe a god intervened. I didn’t pray to my parent’s god. I didn’t believe her god existed. I didn’t believe her god would save me. looking back I knew praying wasn’t going to do anything. I didn’t think of about a god when I was in this situation. I quickly hit the brake peddle and the car stopped. I was surprised I didn’t slide right onto incoming traffic. I was told by some of my old friends that I could have died. That people die sleeping at the wheel all of the time. The cars that were in front and behind me were gone. My car got a few scratches but that was it. I drove the rest of the way home wide awake.
@MrDawn Glad you made it.
Yea, I have been in crazy shit too. The thing is, everything is happening fast, over in less than five seconds, but time seems to slow as you think of all the possibilities and attempt the correct action.
And while the personal thinking and decision-making seems to take many minutes, I have never appealed to or thought of a god. Too busy just trying to survive.
The existence of God CAN be proven by eye witness testimony. It is the NON-existence of God which cannot be proven. This is the same as dividing by zero in mathematics.
Atheism is the COMPLETE non- belief in God. Many people believe that they maintain this type of existence. Agnosticism is the desire for proof.
When I was 6. I had a lot of questions. I asked my grandmother where lizards came from. The question wasn’t about creation. Anyways, she answered and said that Jesus put them outside. Thinking that Jesus was a real person, I wanted to meet him. Because I liked reptiles and I thought he could give me a free pet. I never once thought that they were created. Then my mom started taking me to church. But the sermons were boring as hell and I didn’t understand the pastor. So my mom put me in Sunday school which was a lot like a day care. We kids talked about everything BUT god.
I’ve had a hard time buying that story for most of my life. People say a lot of stupid shit. When I was 18, I noticed there were a lot of Christian denominations and different religions. Everyone believed in something different.
If there was evidence for the Christian god. Everyone would believe in HIM. There would be no other religions, there would be no Atheists. Our government would be a theocracy ruled by God. But yet, none of us are presented with physical or scientific evidence. This god doesn’t speak to us the way he spoke to the other characters in the Bible. To me, he’s fictional and nonexistent.
Which is an Argumentum Ad Populum. The eye witness’s are a bunch of anonymous authors via The First Council of Nicaea who used Christianity to float their political agenda. Constantine needed Christianity to unite his empire. It’s an objective fact that Christianity is a man made religion and that the Bible was written by men. I’m certain they made up all of the bullshit in the Bible. There’s no evidence that they ever talked to a magic man or a deity. The whole point of that religion was to control people and they made the church system to to do just that.
Atheism is the disbelief in ALL deities. Not just your god.