@Sheldon you can check this out too. But, it’s up to you. And, I can’t make you. Or, whatever you like.
Just tell me what you think has happened and why, FYI the what & the why should contain sufficient objective evidence to support them. To be clear anecdotal testimony, YouTube videos alone, and conclusions based on bare assumptions won’t be sufficient.
To be clear, that is video footage from a fighter jet of an object maneuvering in the sky. It comes from a credible source. And it is backed up by numerous testimonies. And not just in USA. China is also aware of these objects over their coastal waters. It’s an ongoing issue that the government of USA is now investing money into researching.
Lol. If you DON’T want to SEE the evidence, you’re going to ignore it. I can’t do anything about it. This is VIDEO FOOTAGE from an F18 fighter jet with testimony from a decorated military pilot. Lol again.
As for my little story. Here is what DIDN’T happen.
In the abandoned psychiatric ward, there was not a woman on the fifth floor with a radio TUNED IN to the workers radio frequency.
That in itself is very hard to believe. These buildings are empty. His radio frequency was specific. Her words “women only. No men.” Are from someone who knows the history of the mental ward.
Use Occam’s razor. How did she get to the fifth floor of an abandoned insane asylum with alarm systems at every entryway?
How did she know this man’s radio frequency?
Granted. It may be more plausible than the idea of a ghost. But it’s also very unlikely. There’s no clear answer. And the absurd begins to appear more plausible than the impossible, wouldn’t you agree?
I don’t need to convince you any more than you need me to to convince you.
PS. I’ve missed you and I’d like to know why you’re not replying to my letters?
FYI
It seems feasible that this technology could be used to fake just such a UFO or UAP sighting… but then, the earliest of these videos was produced in 2004, which would suggest far more advanced laser systems than the United States currently maintains were already in use some 17 years ago.
From above article.
Commander Fravor’s discussion of his eye witness experience with Joe Rogan. Including anecdotal evidence from a 70 year old woman who grew up on a military base with her mother and father in the 50’s who has seen the exact same things (as expressed by her to Commander Fravor).
Also FYI.
OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE
Preliminary Assessment:
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena
“There are probably multiple types of UAP requiring different explanations based on the
range of appearances and behaviors described in the available reporting. Our analysis of
the data supports the construct that if and when individual UAP incidents are resolved they will
fall into one of five potential explanatory categories: airborne clutter, natural atmospheric
phenomena, USG or U.S. industry developmental programs, foreign adversary systems, and a
catchall “other” bin.”
You mean it’s a perceived unidentified object, otherwise this discourse would be redundant? Would you like a link to video footage of mermaids?
LINK
That’s an appeal to authority fallacy.
That’s an argumentum ad populum fallacy.
Another argumentum ad populum fallacy?
So an unevidenced and anecdotal claim, that the US government is investing money, into unevidenced and anecdotal claims? Seriously?
That’s a pretty transparent poisoning of the well fallacy. When you present any objective evidence I will evaluate it, but I’d be pretty stunned to find out that your bizarre assumptions were breaking as true on here first, and for pretty obvious reasons, however I will, unlike you, keep an open mind.
Allegedly, and it’s another appeal to authority fallacy, and your conclusions would need to be supported by sufficient objective evidence of course, not just nodding unevidenced assumptions.
That’s an unevidenced anecdotal claim of course, and the obvious response is so what?
No it isn’t, and that is an argument from personal incredulity fallacy of course.
Two unevidenced anecdotal claims, and again…so what?
Sorry, that’s three unevidenced anecdotal claims, and again, so what?
I have, and your unevidenced assumptions are in the bin, and with them your unevidenced conclusions.
It’s your claim, and your conclusion that inexplicable magic is involved, and it’s an argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy to demand an alternative explanation, or contrary evidence be demonstrated or refute your unevidenced claims and assumptions. Are you counting the known common logical fallacies you’ve used thus far? Why do I need to keep explaining this?
Straw man fallacy, where did I claim anyone knew anything? It’s your unevidenced anecdotal claim, dear oh dear.
Ghosts are plausible at all? Based on what? Accurately define a ghost please, and please use objective evidence, and then offer objective evidence for any ghost, or that a “ghost” is even possible? Until then calming anything is more or less probable than a “ghost” is utterly meaningless.
A pretty meaningless tautology? However you clearly mean to convince me, or else why offer your (unevidenced) claims and assumptions here? What claims have I made that require me to convince anyone?
Thanks, what letters?
Sigh…
There is also Tunderf00t explanation that kinda makes most sense to me.
This is just one of his videos on the subject.
Can someone jog my memory please, what does the letter U stand for in the acronym UFO?
It’s “unicorn”. Everyone knows this.
So, question. We have an eye witness claim backed up by video footage of the claim. We have dozens of confirming reports by navy radar operators back up by radar imaging technology.
At what point does “ad authority” becomes legit. At what point does “ad populism” become legit.
You might want to take aliens seriously, Sheldon. I’m sure they’re interested in you particularly
What is “unicorn”, and what are you claiming everyone knows?
So we have an unevidenced claim that there is an eye witness, and some video footage, again then I can get you video footage of mermaids, and claims by people to have witnessed them, are you implying this is credible evidence mermaids are real?
For the sake of argument lets say we have someone who you can demonstrate has witnessed something they cannot explain, that gets a large so what?
Dozens (argumentum ad populum) of alleged reports that someone saw something they can’t explain on radar, k’innel pass me my tin foil hat.
What aliens? When someone demonstrates sufficient objective evidence for something I accept it is likely true. Why you choose to indulge anecdote, fantasy, and unevidenced assumption only you can know, but it is of no use to me.
Well “they’re” only…(not) human. There is no they, not until someone demonstrates sufficient objective evidence.
No idea what you mean?
No idea what you mean, but you used several known common logical fallacies, the inference is pretty clear. We’ve been here enough times for you to know what it means as well.
Nope, I remain dubious that any such thing as ghosts exist, or are even possible, since you have yet to demonstrate anything approaching objective evidence.
I don’t believe your unevidenced claim. Same rules apply…
Lets assume for the sake of argument I do know both of those to be true, your claim remains dubious, do you know why? I have explained the reason enough times.
I am an atheist, so by definition I don’t believe any deity or deities exist. I have no idea what you mean by “a higher collective consciousness”? It sounds like woo woo to me tbh.
I can’t comment on how pathetic I appear, and though I currently live alone, I don’t feel lonely per se, I think that is a matter of perception. I have no idea what a normal person is? Though I understand there are various norms that the majority adhere to.
How about I pay a prostitute to show you a good time? Would you agree with me on one single point that I’ve made since joining this forum? He or she will be top dollar.
You’ll have to be more specific, I address what is said, who says it is not relevant to whether it is valid. However by all means reference a specific point and I will give it all the due diligence I am able.
No. No. The deal is I buy you a good time and you agree to one point.
How about, “I hear the voice of God.”
Now. I’m willing to buy you a prostitute just so that you’ll say “okay. I believe you.”
But. Let’s see if I can save a few bucks.
Ahem. It’s a process that starts with a question. Do you think I’m lying when I say that God talks to me?
How much do you imagine my approbation would be worth if I let it be bought?
Sorry, but in order to believe a claim I’d need objective evidence, not sexual favours. As I said a lie would be pretty worthless. Wouldn’t you rather people told you the truth anyway? I certainly would rather hear a difficult truth, I will learn more from it in the long run.
No that seems unlikely, I can’t know for sure of course, but either way it would remain an unevidenced anecdote. Of course I can’t rule out you’re actually talking to a deity either, I just don’t believe it, because the claim is anecdotal, and not supported by any objective evidence.
Ratty… YOU are schizophrenic. Why, oh why don’t you just accept it? Nobody is “normal”, we all have health issues AND your health issue (that we know about) is the brain organ. It is an organ.
I shit brown water 8-12 times a day from my unhealthy intestines (which don’t work) BUT I’m not trying to sell it as “steaming hot chocolate” that I collect in a Royal Throne.
No one is buying your shit the same way no one would buy mine.
WHY?
Both don’t pass the scientific method. Mine is a demonstrable lie and is measurable. Yours doesn’t even make it to testing so it’s a NO
Both of us have to keep the ends that can spew shit closed, and only open it in the appropriate setting. Mine, a bathroom. You a psychiatrist.
Our meds won’t cure us BUT can make life more manageable if you work with and accept the limitations.
Okay. That, in my opinion, is as much of an approbation as I’m going to get.
No. There’s more to it. “Schizophrenia” is a label. I readily accept that I have it, but in the absence of any compelling mechanism defining why my so called “brain malfunction” allows me to hear the voice of a very powerful formless being who directs my overall daily mental activities, I will be true to my authentic experience
Your experience is your own. To compare my authentic experience with God as you selling your liquid bowel issue as “hot chocolate” is a misnomer.
Just as I’d be surprised at how real your bowel problems are if I were in your shoes, you would be surprised at how real my relationship with this voice is - how intelligent it is
Schizophrenia is a “label” that describes YOUR mental illness.
Crohns Disease is a “label” that describes MY intestinal illness.
Jesus fuckin’Christ… I do not doubt for ONE second that YOU have an internal relationship with the voices
Were you feeling better AND went off your meds?