If you are interested

[Tin-Man]

@David_Killens

This is like wrestling jello.

I’m afraid I have to disagree, Dave. Jello can actually be a fun and delicious treat. And wrestling in/with jello can be a delightful experience. (Or, uh, so I’ve been told… … innocent whistling…) Anyway, personally, I would say this is more like wrestling with a hairless weasel covered in castor oil. (Not that I have any actual experience with that… … more innocent whistling…)

[David_Killens]

A hairless weasel covered in Jello? Grape or cherry flavored?

[Tin-Man]

@David_Killens

A hairless weasel covered in Jello? Grape or cherry flavored?

Well, normally I would choose grape, but I actually prefer cherry jello when wrestling weas-… I mean, uhhh… (dammit)… Uh, wrestling a hairless weasel covered in jello??? That’s just plain disgusting!

[Cognostic]

@Tin-Man

Uh, wrestling a hairless weasel covered in jello??? That’s just plain disgusting!

Not if you are going out for catfish. You gotta think outside the box. What better way to coat your oiled up chicken strips than to wrestle a hairless weasel in a tub of cherry jello. If your going to coat all them damn chicken breasts you might as well have some fun doing it.

[Whitefire13]

@Whitefire13

So is eating. Phenomenal.

Who woulda thunk it that social animals have a “code” of love (again not defined).

@Tia_Thompson

I’m not sure that I would consider eating a code.

Lol - why do you think I used “” around code?

How do you think we evolved to succeed in obtaining a basic human need? Social animals. Why do you think I stated that this idea of love remains undefined?

So we use a word to describe bonding and co-operating and attachment.

Same as eating. Not phenomenal.

[Cognostic]

I told you… In each and every case… ANGER ---- is always about not getting something you want. Great photos.

[Whitefire13]

I’ve earned my “resting bitch face”.

[Cognostic]

Hmmm- Resting - Bitch ---- Sounds like you just want to be left the fuck alone.

[Whitefire13]

It started young. With my mom. “What’s wrong with you?”

Then it grew into “what the fuck’s wrong with you?” People in general.

Then into “Jesus fuckin’Christ!” Kids.

Well earned. Lol.

Btw…when I do stupid shit it also yells at me. Throughout my life.

And yes it does keep many away which, for me, is a good thing.

[Tin-Man]

@Cognostic

What better way to coat your oiled up chicken strips than to wrestle a hairless weasel in a tub of cherry jello. If your going to coat all them damn chicken breasts you might as well have some fun doing it.

Oh dear GOD! What the hell is WRONG with you? Damn, man, you’ve said some stupid shit before, but I’m pretty sure this tops them all, you sick fuck. Jeee-sus! Anybody with two functioning brain cells knows you do not use cherry jello for chicken breasts. It has to be LEMON jello. (But Lime is an acceptable substitue.) And wrestle a hairless weasel? Really??? That’s just plain ludicrous. It has to be a hairless SLOTH if you are battering chicken. Hairless weasels are used only for stirring coleslaw, you idget. How do you NOT know these things? Ya know, I really worry about you sometimes.

[Cognostic]

OH MY God! I wish you would fucking read the damn posts before you have a mechanical melt down. I said for CATFISHING! Not Robotic consumption. I understand the acids in citris are good for your system and if I were inviting you for dinner I would most certainly use lemon or lime. Catfish like GRAPE AND CHERRY. You fucking live in Alabama and you don’t know this?
Fishing for catfish with Jello - 6 catfish bait recipes - How to catch catfish - YouTube Stop being so buthurt, you don’t have to eat the cherry stuff.

[Tin-Man]

@Cognostic

I said for CATFISHING! Not Robotic consumption.

Awwwww, shit… I feel really stupid now… (hanging head in shame)… I totally read that post wrong. My bad. I read that before having my coffee. You were totally right. I’m just gonna steal one of your cookies and go to my room now… (slowly shuffling down hallway clutching security blankie)…

[David_Killens]

[TheMagus]

@Tia_Thompson

That may not be your personal proof of a God, but it is theirs, and we all got a chance to view it.

@Tia_Thompson A post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy is when someone assumes the source of something without evidence. For instance somebody else can assume it was their god and not yours. Somebody else, the devil. The possibilities are endless and nobody can prove they are right. The fact is, we don’t know how that person came out of that comma so there really is no point in assuming. This is why it is a fallacy.

There is no way of justify the belief in anything unfalsifiable without using logical fallacies. Above, you agreed with me above on the definition of faith. Just like you have faith in god, by the definition we agreed to, you also have faith that this was done by god. Nobody measured god existing or god doing this. This is using one invisible, unfalsifiable thing to “prove” another. Does this make sense @Tia_Thompson? This is a prime example of circular reasoning. My god must have healed the guy, therefore god exists.

As an atheist, I claim that “I don’t know” where as theist claim that they do know. Epistemology is about knowing truth, not merely guessing. If somebody believes something without evidence (faith) they are guessing and thus, cannot claim to know. Faith is about will, not evidence. That is why faith is a bad epistemology. You want to believe god exists, just like you want to believe that god brought that person out of a comma. Faith is why there are over 4000 religions on the planet. People are good at faithing what they want.

Can we agree on the following?

1. Post hoc ergo propter hoc is a fallacy
2. Fallacies are bad epistemologies and cannot be used to find truth.
3. The example of a person coming out of a comma must be proof of god existing qualifies as a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy because you are assuming the source is god without evidence.

[Tia_Thompson]

@TheMagus

Can we agree on the following?

1. Post hoc ergo propter hoc is a fallacy
2. Fallacies are bad epistemologies and cannot be used to find truth.
3. The example of a person coming out of a comma must be proof of god existing qualifies as a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy because you are assuming the source is god without evidence

Thank you. I have a couple of questions before I agree or disagree, if you don’t mind answering them:

1. Are all fallacies bad epistemologies that cannot be used to find truth?

2. And if so, do the use of fallacies invalidate the claim?

[Nyarlathotep]

@Tia_Thompson

• Are all fallacies bad epistemologies that cannot be used to find truth?
• And if so, do the use of fallacies invalidate the claim?

A fallacy is a failure in reasoning/logic. An argument that contains a fallacy is always invalid.

[David_Killens]

@Tia_Thompson

And if so, do the use of fallacies invalidate the claim?

To supplement Nyarlathotep’s comment, a fallacy applies to all subjects. They are not exclusive to religion.

[MrDawn]

@Tia_Thompson

Thank you. I have a couple of questions before I agree or disagree, if you don’t mind answering them:

1. Are all fallacies bad epistemologies that cannot be used to find truth?
2. And if so, do the use of fallacies invalidate the claim?

Yes. It means it’s a flawed argument that’s been tried multiple times and has been found to be incorrect.

[Tia_Thompson]

@Nyarlathotep

@Nyarlathotep

A fallacy is a failure in reasoning/logic. An argument that contains a fallacy is always invalid.

If this is true, why did no one call out the logical fallacies used elsewhere?

@Tin-Man

@Tia_Thompson

I do not find that the “Christian God” or his son Jesus have a dark side.

I think it is worth restating how incredibly lacking Tia is in Reading Comprehension skills. Something else I’ve noticed, too. She also seems to be hopelessly Irony Impaired. Almost feel sorry for her. Must be daunting going through life with such inhibiting deficiencies.

@Cognostic

You attribute magical shit to anything and everything you do not know.

@Cognostic

She genuinely does not have an opinion, David. She does not have one. Her brain is so full of shit that she can not see the world around her. She is not very smart and all of her opinions have been wrong throughout her life. She has learned to speak in amorphous meaningless drivel to avoid all conflicts and confrontations. She is a friend to everyone and the birdies too. How could anyone dislike her? Her entire goal in life is to love and be loved. In this, she is fulfilled. She will bend over backward to please others and does not even realize her hypocrisy when moving from one place to the next or from one group of friends to the next. She is the very definition of the wishy-washy personality. She just wants to be liked. In this, she becomes one of the most repulsive characters on the planet. As worthless as wet tissue conforming to anything it touches. Ripping itself apart with each new application. It’s a sad thing watching her flounder so.

@Cognostic

You are not a human being but a veneer, replica, of a holographic immage that was taken from a poetic description of a human being. You just don’t get it, do you? I feel genuinly sad for you.

@Cognostic

Bullshit babble of a feel good, glassy eyed delusionist.

Why not just say; “I’m fucking asleep in my dream, don’t bother me!”

EDIT: The real problem with Tia is that she actually thinks she is saying something.

@Tin-Man

Which - once again - just goes to show “Reading Comprehension” was NOT a learning priority for Tia. “Apologetics”, on the other hand, was her absolute favorite class. (Just wanted to point this out for the benefit of those who read but don’t participate. That way they will know the signs to look for in future discussions with dishonest theists.)

[Nyarlathotep]

@Tia_Thompson

If this is true, why did no one call out the logical fallacies used elsewhere?

Can you give an example?