She genuinely does not have an opinion, David. She does not have one. Her brain is so full of shit that she can not see the world around her. She is not very smart and all of her opinions have been wrong throughout her life. She has learned to speak in amorphous meaningless drivel to avoid all conflicts and confrontations. She is a friend to everyone and the birdies too. How could anyone dislike her? Her entire goal in life is to love and be loved. In this, she is fulfilled. She will bend over backward to please others and does not even realize her hypocrisy when moving from one place to the next or from one group of friends to the next. She is the very definition of the wishy-washy personality. She just wants to be liked. In this, she becomes one of the most repulsive characters on the planet. As worthless as wet tissue conforming to anything it touches. Ripping itself apart with each new application. It’s a sad thing watching her flounder so.
If you are still waiting, it is only because you are not satisfied with my answer–not because I haven’t answered you.
I believe in God.
I believe in God because I have experienced things that have caused me to.
just as you have had your own personal experiences that have caused you not to.
I believe in a historical Jesus. I have found there is more reasons to believe in a historical Jesus than to disbelieve in him.
But even if I didn’t, I agree with the doctrine. The greatest commandment is to love one another as much as we do ourselves. I think that is amazing, on it’s own–but to find out on this very forum that it is a nearly universal code found in every ideology worldwide, religious and irreligious alike is phenomenal.
That is what I believe and why, said yet another way. Perhaps, this will be more acceptable to you. Perhaps, not. We’ll have to wait and see.
Who woulda thunk it that social animals have a “code” of love (again not defined).
Personally, most folks have no idea how to love themselves. They bask in self loathing, insecurity and destructive behaviours. I would prefer they loved me as I love myself.
Well, I’M still waiting because you haven’t answered me. Once again, how do you explain/justify your Loving God torturing innocent infants with his “Divine Kindness”?.. (cue the “Jeopardy” music)…
I’m not sure that I would consider eating a code.
You are right though, many people do not know how to love themselves. They bask in self loathing, insecurity and destructive behaviors.
A more balanced person who had a greater understanding of how to love themselves would in essence be teaching that love when they exhibited it.
Perhaps, that sounds like work to some and that is why it doesn’t happen as it should.
So, you are saying you do not believe the bible is true? Good grief. Make up your mind…
2 Samuel 12:
14 But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for[a] the Lord, the son born to you will die.”
15 After Nathan had gone home, the Lord struck the child that Uriah’s wife had borne to David, and he became ill. 16 David pleaded with God for the child. He fasted and spent the nights lying in sackcloth[b] on the ground. 17 The elders of his household stood beside him to get him up from the ground, but he refused, and he would not eat any food with them.
18 On the seventh day the child died.
Edit to add: Also, I suppose all the children and infants that perished in The Flood were not scared or in any agony as they drown in the rising waters.
That was evident on day one. So why have you not identified yourself as a theist on your profile?
What experiences? That is what I am driving for.
I have laid out my own personal life story, and if there are parts you are not sure about, I am very willing to fill in the gaps.
Why? I understand you place great emphasis on love. I do appreciate that. But jesus is not required for love.
NO. The greatest commandment is number one of them all.
You shall have no other Gods before me.
But why specifically christianity and jesus? Why not other religions that place just as strong an emphasis on love? And some of them do not have a god that may demand you murder your child in blood sacrifice.
This is something you fail to comprehend, that the christian god and his son jesus have a dark side, they have done and are capable of genocide and murder. If I was seeking a religion that emphasis love, I could do a heck of a lot better than christianity.
@Tin-Man I have already explained so many times that I regard the Bible as man’s approach to the concept of God.
I don’t know how to get past what you were raised believing.
By the way: I think it is entirely crazy, but I have been going week by week sort of writing bible stories as I perceive them as an adult, much like I did with Samson. This week just happened to be the particular story that you cited.
The better question, of course, is why does an omnipotent being enjoy watching a kid getting raped instead of stopping it, and then can help average dumbfuck Joe find his car keys?
“…All lies and jest, still a man he hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest…” (Courtesy of Simon & Garfunkel)
… (announcer voice)… Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of “Spotting Signs and Tactics of Dishonest Apologists”. As usual, we have Tia providing us with another of her patented methods of dodging the question. And today she has used a textbook example of “Cherry Picking”. As she has repeatedly displayed over and over in a reduntantly repetitive manner, Tia only recognizes the goody-goody feels-so-good-and-right lovey-dovey parts of the bible that give her a warm fuzzy feeling in her belly… No, wait… Her heart?.. Uh, her va-… Oh, nevermind where. She simply feeeeels all warm and fuzzy inside. However, God forbid(s) you should mention anything in the bible referring to her God’s sadistic, genocidal, narcissistic personality. Because Tia does not recognize those parts of the bible as being true. She blames MAN for causing those errors in God’s perfect book. (Errors that her All-powerful Perfect God was apparently unable to correct.)
Again, I hope you have enjoyed your lesson today. Thank you for tuning in. As always, it is a pleasure having you here to grow and learn. Take care out there.
Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. (Romans 13:8-10)
I think the misunderstanding is that I DO appreciate other religions. Other religions have helped me to see how interconnected everything is. I do, however believe in the doctrine of Jesus. I asked you once if that made me a Christian. You responded that it did.
That was your box.
I let you have it.
I do not find that the “Christian God” or his son Jesus have a dark side. The dark side belongs to man’s ability to follow the rules.
The rule.
Love each other as least as much as we do ourselves.
By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:35)
None of the atrocities of humanity would endure if this rule was employed with accuracy.
I asked about y’all’s take on other religions…because that same “God” is there also. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. You can know this by that greatest and enduring commandment, that Jesus highlighted for all.
I opened with Islam, but I received the answer that it was varying forms of shit. I figured we already have our hands full with Christianity, and here we are.
I don’t believe god is real. That is why I don’t think he tortures infants. But what I’m sure of: is according to the Bible; god is responsible for EVERYTHING (and goes out of its way to re-enforce the idea that god is responsible for the evils of the world). It is very clear on the matter. Infants are being tortured, if the bible is accurate, god is responsible.
You have no personal experience that is not more adequately explained by reality than by a god. You attribute magical shit to anything and everything you do not know. And there is so very much you are clueless about, as is evident in your posts.
I think it is worth restating how incredibly lacking Tia is in Reading Comprehension skills. Something else I’ve noticed, too. She also seems to be hopelessly Irony Impaired. Almost feel sorry for her. Must be daunting going through life with such inhibiting deficiencies.
The other irony is that theists tend to be capable of identifying villains in other forms of fiction, books and film, yet quite ignorantly incapable of perceiving the biblical god as an evil dude simply by applying critical thinking processes.
Don’t be silly. The answer to that is obvious. The little children did not, or could not, pray enough to god to stop the person/people raping them. (Especially if their mouths were covered.) Average Dumbfuck Joe, on the other hand, prays LOUDLY AND EARNESTLY for god to help find his keys. Because Joe is late leaving his girlfriend’s house, and he has to get home to his wife and kids as quickly as possible.