@Nyarlathotep the examples are in the above post
please pick one and explain how it is a fallacy
Yes and No. They addressed your arguments and then slapped you on the wrist for using those arguments. Ad Hominems are used so commonly in an argument that they are over looked. It doesn’t invalidate the other person on the correct side of the argument. When someone says the sky is purple, I can correct them and say “No the sky is blue, dumb ass!”. It doesn’t make my argument invalid because I used an Ad Hominem or called them a name.
OK this user has commented on your reading comprehension. Haven’t you demonstrated—ad nauseam—that you have poor reading comprehension?
ETA: if someone told you that your choice of an outfit was garbage because you have low reading comprehension, that would be an ad hominem.
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Please tell me, how in this selection I was asked to choose, that my argument was addressed.
I see no argument in the section you quoted.
@Tia_Thompson Are those comments an analysis of a person, or just insults for the sake of being mean?
FYI some in here are decent practitioners of psychology.
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lol what does it matter? You lost a debate and now you’re throwing a bitch fit about it and playing the victim?
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@David_Killens
Indeed! I am definitely no psychologist.
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Muslims, christians, atheists, pastafarians, all receive the same treatment. Their claims are examined and if found falling short, challenged. And if you hang around here long enough, there have been atheists who have been shredded for faulty thinking.
It is not the belief itself, it is the thought process that leads to one’s position (epistemology) that is applied and examined in here
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Not only do I like this statement, I agree with it.
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It matters, because I am determining how to answer a question.
Character evaluations are not appeals to “authority” nor “ad hominem”.
IF : Tia is so stupid she believes the sky is blue.
(Ad hominem because the issue of “sky is blue” as a descriptor isn’t being addressed)
Likewise:
IF: Tia, an expert in color samples, has opined that the sky is purple.
(Appeal to authority. The opinion of an expert doesn’t address the “sky is purple” descriptor)
IF it has been addressed (the arguments) and the opponent continually and with bias ignored the counter arguments or questions posed, then an assessment of “bad-faith” (motivations), character, comprehension and such is allowed.
Speaking of which - your “shit-list” of members you no longer answer is growing.
Two cents here…ad hominem is not always fallacious.
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That’s true. Especially when you’re calling someone out on their bullshit.
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Technically it is possible to accidentally come to an invalid conclusion that just happens to be true. Kind of like the broken clock being right twice a day. In mathematics these are called howlers:
Here are some famous examples:
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Depending on the facts surrounding bringing in the “creditials” or “character” within the debate.
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Indeed, if the ad hominem can be shown to indicate the flaw of a defense or support of an argument by revealing glaring faults of reasoning or a deliberate ignoring of counter-arguments, then there has been no fallacy committed.
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I can see why what was said… was said. When you have someone that comes onto a community and says they’re here to learn. But they keep producing the same circular arguments, playing games, ignoring posts, deflecting, and evading and constantly using fallacious tactics. Of course people are going to get a tiny tad heated and tear them an ass over it. They’re demonstrating that they don’t actually want to learn.
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@Whitefire13 I don’t have a “shit-list”, I just prefer to take my time, particularly in areas that are new to me. I have several people talking to me at once, asking questions and making comments, and I choose not to be pressured into answering something prematurely.
There is nothing wrong in politely explaining that you need to focus on just one person a time, and ignore the others. That is a legitimate reason for doing so.