God Doesn't Do Anything At All

When you have young, attractive nurses waking you up for a somewhat tasty meal in the morning, house keeping delivering fresh new sheets to your room everyday - go back to sleep immediately after breakfast - wake up specifically for lunch - absolutely no obligations - yeah … it’s not the real world and it can’t go on forever - but it’s a nice ride for a while.

Real life is a challenge. But I’m making the most of it.

Hey shithead? Know anything about “psychosomatic headaches” that last four years? Even longer I could imagine?

My girlfriend would sit down and repeat the same simple task for hours. (rolling up and unrolling a towel for example) She would ignore me completely and seem absent

That’s the kind of thing I meant. Is it good for you and your wife for you to be spending time in that world? If it helps, hang in…

I was diagnosed with what used to be called Asperger’s Syndrome when I was 65. Didn’t change anything but it explained a lot. Explained in part why people generally don’t want to be around me and why I have the social skills of a turnip. Also have mental health issues not uncommon with Aspies. (unipolar depression, off and on for 50 years,and relatively mild ocd)

Have been stable for about 8 years. My shrink is a goood one,and put together an effective cocktail of psychotropics. Have not had any serious suicidal ideation for over 7 years.

I am very different in person, and hard to like. Here I can only be seen through a mirror darkly, with my more annoying traits invisible…

Yep! “They Suck” Hey! I already said that! Why do you imagine they are psychosomatic? Why do you think you should be free of them? Be careful what you wish for. Those headaches could be the very thing holding your life together.

I know. I know. But now I’m free. I am on the same level as the EvilOne.

In fact. Perhaps I AM the EvilOne. We should all believe that those little voices in our heads belong to our selves - should we not?

Tell me more, witch doctor. Why was the headache preceded by months of panic attacks, unbelievable psychotic depression, and annihilation anxiety?

When I was defenceless against my voices I could be seen sitting on a couch in a psych. ward wringing my hands while my feet fidgeted around.

I can’t speak for her, however.

Glad to hear that. I’m on a healthy dose of quetiapine, some benzos, and niacin (don’t ask me why I take niacin. Was my mother’s idea).

Despite the benzos in my diet, I am known to suffer the occasional anxiety attack. I’ve learned to cope with those on my own. Boils down to the heart beat regulation.

I’m sorry you feel that way about your self. Must get lonely. Or we adapt, I suppose. Do you have any pets?

Awwwww… come on Ratty… It’s no crime to go window shopping. Sometimes you have to try on a few outfits before you settle on one that is just right for you.

Fleas don’t count… nor anything else with six or eight legs.

More goal post shifting I am afraid. Here is your original claim, and now you introduce a raft of qualifying remarks.

So of course we can see my response (below) was correct, so you shifted the goal posts to avoid it.

Then stop sulking, t’is done.

Hmm :face_with_monocle: Reminds me of a quote by Kierkegaard that i only now fail to recall :face_with_monocle: You’re speaking of pussy, are you not?

Kay. You use that term quite often. What the fuck does it mean, and why should I care?

No. I countered your argument. You said that cocaine and a good wank are a source of bliss. I don’t deny you that. But I am speaking of a separate source. Am I not allowed to speak of a kind of bliss outside the confines of cocaine and whacking off? Because Sheldon has “set the goal posts”? Yeah mutherfucker. I moved them. So what?

And so am I. I have admitted defeat in that thread and will walk away from it - assuming the hyenas don’t gather around the corpse of my final statement to feast and fuss with laughter and boisterousness.

If you accept your win with arrogance I will prolong the pain of talking to me.

Nope, you countered a different argument I hadn’t made by shifting the goal posts as I said. It’s called a straw man fallacy.

Fuck me I could have explained this to a turnip by now. You made a generic claim about bliss, I offered two types of bliss that refuted your claim, you then altered your claim to exclude those types. GOAL POST SHIFTING.

So it’s an idiotic dishonest and fallacious tactic you fucking muppet.

Trust me when I say there was no win here, for anyone who had to read that exchange.

Okay. So you misunderstood. That was not a “generic claim”. It was made in reference to a very special type of bliss called jhanic bliss.

So, you can stop attacking your own goal post shifting straw man “i minored in Philosophy at the Academy of Retards” … okay?

You were the one drawing it out ad nausium. If you weren’t so preoccupied with trying to dry hump me like a poodle with your intellectual snobbishness, we could have easily arrived at a conclusion much sooner.

It was a generic claim, you failed to understand what you’d written. Ffs ratty be a man and admit an error.

No it wasn’t, I already quoted the original claim verbatim, christ your disjointed errant bullshit is starting to piss me off now mate.

Not attacking anything, the error was yours.

Sure. I’ll admit the error. Here’s the original source.

"The knowledge of ending in the presence of ending has its prerequisite, I tell you. It is not without a prerequisite. And what is the prerequisite for the knowledge of ending? Release, it should be said. Release has its prerequisite, I tell you. It is not without a prerequisite. And what is its prerequisite? Dispassion… Disenchantment… Knowledge & vision of things as they actually are present… Concentration… Pleasure… Serenity… Rapture… Joy… Conviction… Stress… Birth… Becoming… Clinging… Craving… Feeling… Contact… The six sense media… Name-&-form… Consciousness… Fabrications… Fabrications have their prerequisite, I tell you. They are not without a prerequisite. And what is their prerequisite? Ignorance, it should be said.

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn12/sn12.023.than.html

Don’t see “bliss” in the quote? That’s because the original Pali term is “sukha” which can also be translated as “pleasure”. Doesn’t change a thing.

Of course, I could be wrong again. Is this the claim? I have to assume to guess the underlying assumption in your post because that’s how you play the game.

You post something with a bunch of underlying assumptions and when anyone fails to read your fucking mind you draw the argument out until maybe (just maybe) you actually state your underlying assumptions.

Don’t get all testicular on me now, Shelly. I’m not your mate.

Which one is the claim? You quoted two things. In either case the type of bliss referred to is jhanic bliss.

My mistake was to not say that at the beginning. I’m saying it now. Do you comprehend?

Well, the error has been rectified. I’ve defined the bliss as jhanic and quoted a Buddhist sutta which shows the numerous underlying conditions which lead to this very specific bliss (“pleasure” - whatever).

Simply quoting two other types of bliss doesn’t accomplish a thing. What do you want now?

I made no assumption, there was no guess, you made a generic claim, and I refuted it with two examples. I quoted your original claim verbatim. You then introduced a caveat that excluded my examples after I had posted them.

Utter nonsense, the error was yours, as was the goal post shifting, I made no assumptions, and my refutation had no ambiguity to anyone with even a cursory grasp of the English language. Here is your claim again in its entirety, and I urge anyone who can still be bothered to read that post to do so, the number is there, as it’s clear you made a generic claim. Then read my response to see you’re talking bollocks.

QED, stop blaming me for your error.

Not now you have moved the goalposts, but clearly they were valid objections to your original claim. It’s hardly my fault you had meant one thing, but posted another.

A source you didn’t include or link to the post with your original claim ffs, and you have the sheer afrontary to claim my post required mind reading.
Good fucking grief ratty.

Ugh!!! This is, IMO, what is arrogant and fills a person with a sense of “specialness”. Again- Christ lovers throw a similar “bliss” of spirit in them. FUCK ME!!! Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit!

Why??? BECAUSE your experience of anything and how you measure or compare that fucking experience is yours alone. It cannot be “compared” to someone else’s interpretation of experiences.

Eating a fucking meal could give me the same “bliss” that you describe for yourself through a different process. YOU DON’T KNOW!

A doctor can ask you to “rate” your pain level - and you will based on past experience or levels or how you are currently interpreting the “pain” - HE cannot compare you to someone else’s pain tolerance levels. At the same time, he can “test” for certain indicators that you are experiencing pain and not just trying to get free drugs.