I know very little about the Quran. This would be a one-sided debate, where you are the expert and I know nothing. Additionally, I advocate for engagement in this forum, and just two people discussing an old book divorces the forum members from participating.
@Whitefire13 The friend knows the Quran.
NO
You desire discussion on this book, I have zero interest.
One caveat: Prove the existence of your god first.
In order to prove my God with my friend, I have to discuss the Quran as well. Both together.
If David doesn’t want to participate, he doesn’t have to. That’s his choice.
Just like it’s our choice to discuss.
This thread is for God’s Existence.
Engage with David on this topic here.
IF you want to talk about the Koran, go to the other thread…
The Quran is the claim, not the proof.
If the book is the proof, I could use a Spiderman comic to prove the existence of Spiderman.
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There is a magnificent miracle in the Quran. I want to argue with Whitefire13. @Whitefire13
YOU know where to post it…
Do you want to discuss the Quran with me?
Jesus fuckin’Christ! Yes… I said I’d talk to you or ask questions from posts 75 and down!
Haven’t you been reading them???
Okey. Open a topic, let’s discuss the Quran there.
LOL 
. I hope that you actually read or re-read things I post. Otherwise 
’cause now you’re suggesting a new thread.
BUT okey-dokey…
I know every criticism of atheists of the Quran.
Well - you have an advantage…I don’t …
That’s a meaningless straw man fallacy, try reading my responses rather than simply parotting your original vapid straw man fallacy.
I will discuss whatever I’m minded to, if you don’t like it then don’t post on a public debate forum. Though I’m happy to accept religious text are meaningless in evidencing any deity.
No it doesn’t, and your endless unevidenced claims are becoming tedious.
Another straw man, since no one has claimed that the results of evolution are entirely accidental.
No you don’t, are you trying to produce facile non sequitur? Sperm is part of the process of reproduction, and the entire process can be evidenced and explained without requiring or evidencing any deity or anything supernatural. So please stop making these facile statements as if they are profound pieces of evidence for your, as yet entirely unevidenced, claim for an extant deity, as this is also tedious, and dishonest.
Sigh, straw man fallacy, again…
Who knows, unless you explainsoecifically what you’re referring to. Though how this remotely evidences a deity is baffling. Try this, coincidences are merely subjective human perception when a confluence of events achieves an outcome we subjectively perceive as unlikely. Since human reproduction has occurred, is entirely natural and can be demonstrated as entirely natural with objective evidence, it’s absurd to claim an unevidenced deity using inexplicable magic is involved. Again Occam’s razor applies…as I’ve pointed out, and you have ignored. So this mindless repetition of your original claims, and the fact you’re ignoring valid rational objections is starting to sound like preaching to me, and I must say I don’t care to be preached at.
I disbelieve it because It’s palpably untrue, and there is no objective evidence for it, as sperm is not water ffs.
So you keep claiming, but have yet to demonstrate a shred of evidence that anything in nature is designed.
The human mind evolved, that’s an objective scientific fact. We don’t need your unevidenced addition of woo woo superstition.
Complexity is not what indicates design, objective evidence is what indicates design, and the fact that designed things do not occur naturally. You seem to be heading for Paley’s watchmaker fallacy …
- Are you going to address any of the objections in my posts?
- What objective evidence can you demonstrate for any deity or deities?
Stop parotting your original claims please, as this is a debate forum, not a pulpit from which to preach.
We are currently discussing the Quran with another friend. That’s why I can’t answer. I’ll answer another time.
No you don’t, not that it matters, since atheists don’t need to disprove your claim for an extant deity, only demand you demonstrate sufficient objective evidence for it, and so far you’ve offered naught but subjective unevidenced claims.
You don’t seem to know what objective evidence means, and you clearly don’t understand informal logic or the consequences of your endless use of argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacies.
Even after I’ve taken the time to explain it to you…
Yes, but it doesn’t contain the quote you said it would contain:
I think you are making this shit up.
Of course it does. You can’t both be sceptical and ring fence your beliefs from any doubt.
If it were not supported by sufficient objective evidence in Newton’s scientific theories then yes, I would be extremely dubious. I also accept that though it’s an established scientific fact, it still must remain tentative, as must all scientific ideas, it appears you don’t know that this is a basic requirement of the scientific method. Obviously that destroys your claim as well.
Not having doubts is not the same as allowing for doubt if the evidence requires it. You have demobstrated no evidence for your deity, none. Just made endless assertions.
These are all objective. It’s all scientific. I explained the working system of his body. I describe the functions of your organs. The start of reproduction is sperm. It is a great miracle to be human from sperm. Try to make a bug out of the water droplet.