He does not come out of sperm in the verse. It talks about where the baby came out.
86:5-So let the human being see from what he was created.
86:6-He was created from water that spurts forth.
86:7-It comes out from between the spine and the testicles.
86:8-For He is able to bring him back.
As seen in the verse above, it says where man comes from. It is not explained where the sperm came from. In 86:8 man will return to God.
It talks about where the baby came out? You mean from between the legs of a woman? A woman with testicles? Or do you seriously propose that the Quran means that the baby is fully formed in the father’s testicles, then injected into the mother through an ejaculation so it can grow? You cannot seriously mean that such utter nonsense is true???
Anyway, you’ve been cherry picking, eh? Here are four randomly selected Qurans that talk about the backbone and the ribs:
- Let man consider what he was created from.
- He was created from gushing liquid.
- Issuing from between the backbone and the breastbones.
Let people then consider what they were created from!
˹They were˺ created from a spurting fluid,
stemming from between the backbone and the ribcage.
- So let the human being consider what he was created from.
- He was created from gushing fluid.
- Issuing from between the backbone and the breastbones.
- Now let man but think From what he is created !
- He is created from a drop emitted—
- Proceeding from between The backbone and the ribs :
@QuranMuslim19
Since it has been 24 hours and you haven’t replied but have started to reply to more recent messages:
Is it OK for me to assume you are full of shit yet?
If not; how long should I wait until it is safe to assume that?
OH FUCK! The Quaran is a piece of shit work, tossed together from a bunch of scraps of writing collected paper, tree bark, stones, and whatever else anyone was writing on at the time. Muhammad himself had little or nothing to do with the Creation of the Quaran, we even have evidence of the Quaran existing prior to Muhammad’s life. A university assistant shows fragments of an old Quran at the University in Birmingham, in Birmingham central England Wednesday, July 22, 2015. historians say the fragments may predate the Prophet Muhammad, which could reshape early Islamic history, according to the Daily Mail.
We know early Mosques did not face Mecca and the Quaran describes Petra as the birthplace of Muhammad.
Your fucking holy book is so fucked up it is not worth the paper it is written on. The more we look into it the more lies we discover.
Records in the Hadith show Muhammad taught different versions of the Quaran to his followers, there was never one version until Uthman’s vision of making one version of the Qur’an for the entire Muslim world. Early in Islam’s history there were many synoptic Qur’ans. These Qur’ans were the collections of various companions of Muhammad. Some of them were the Qur’ans of those who Muhammad had commissioned to teach the Qur’an. These were not simply for the personal use of the companion but were used to teach entire regions. They were similar yet differed in the number of suras, the sura order, and the wording of verses.
THAT IS HOW YOU GOT YOUR FUCKING QUARAN.
Muhammad did not supervise the collection of the words of the Qur’an into one book, nor did he command that this ever be done.
YOUR HOLY BOOK IS SHIT, MAN MADE, FROM THE GROUND UP.
Of course defects and or disease show that individual evolved species are fighting other living things to survive. Far from being perfectly designed they’re a trade off in a constant battle to best match the environment we live in.
Of course since our theist thread author claims a deity created and put in place evolution, we could simply ask why that is not even remotely what the creation myth in the koran says?
We could also ponder wtf that deity was so fascinated with dinosaur evolution, that it spent hundreds of millions of years tinkering with them? Only evolving one species of ape (homo sapiens) just a couple of hundred thousand years ago? It makes the idea that we are the main show, as Abrahamic religions have always claimed, a risible claim.
In the astronomically unlikely event that all the overwhelming objective evidence for species evolution were reversed tomorrow, I’d remain an atheist as it wouldn’t evidence a deity one iota. However the scientific theory exposes Abrahamic creation myths as nonsense, that dont even have a cursory resemblance to the objective facts of the origins of all living things on this planet, generally failing to get the most basic chronological facts about the formation of the universe, our solar system, and the emergence of living things entirely wrong.
Compare the mental cartwheels required to preserve those theistic belief, and how they must offend reason, deny science, and have Occam using his razor posthumously on himself in sheer despair…
…to the idea that the origins of life might be explained by an as yet undiscovered natural phenomenon…
And I am always stunned at the sheer unevidenced hubris of theists, like the thread author.
I left you a link on photosynthesis
Evolution is of no use to atheists. Nobody denies evolution. We are discussing the existence of God, not the scriptures. The system in the human body is magnificent and proves the existence of God. These are not accidental. You become human from sperm. Could this be a coincidence? If someone says to you, the “water” droplet turns into a human after 9 months. "If you do not witness this, you do not believe it. But you are a witness and you do not even think about it. The mind has a magnificent design.
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How old is the person saying it??? Hahahaha. NOPE- I have NEVER had someone say this to me! You hold the title as the first AND it is far from impressive.
No “coincidence” - just evolution.
BTW just about everyone I know needs glasses 
. Good thing humans invented them for the “magnificence” of our evolved eyesight.
Uh 
Lol 
Evidence for evolution
No evidence of gods/deity
No “references” to mythology records
…OR the existence of life outside our “simulation” built on ones and zeros.
…OR the tweaking of our DNA by aliens.
…OR that we only exist to reproduce.
Then why is the human body a poor design? For example, we have a curved spine and other deficient design features. A competent and reasonably intelligent entity could design a body that is less full of design flaws.
Your comments defeat that position.
Man is a flawed being. The working system in his body shows that this job is not accidental. There is no disorder in the shoulders.
Nobody denies evolution, dude? Yes, a lot of people do. Go check out Answers in Genesis.
I grew up believing all life was created about 6000 years ago…
False belief. To discuss the Quran with you publicly and only you and I will discuss the Quran. @David_Killens
I decline your invitation.
Sounds like a plan… this thread (I assume)?
I accept, however others may chime in… I can’t/won’t stop them BUT you may just address me if you desire.
Why David? Why David? Everything is discussed in the discussion form.
Yes plan. Discussion will be planned ahead of time and we will discuss it. Other friends are kindly requested not to participate in the discussion.
You can plan anything you like. I’m a fly-by-the-seat of my pants 
type person.
@David_Killens The two of us want to discuss the Quran.