Have you read the thread that I started about arrogance and ignorance yet, because you’re currently at the head of the class.
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Well, if this is your opinion and you don’t understand the underlying reasons behind wars, which often have strategic, economic, and resource implications, then there is nothing I can do. Beliefs are often the reasons that are presented to the public.
There are more ideological differences between Saudi Arabia and the USA than between North Korea and the USA. Despite these differences, there is no significant conflict between the two nations. Therefore, I completely reject your point. It’s evident that factors such as the economy, interests, and other considerations can quickly overcome disparities in ideas.
In fact, we witness some rather amusing occurrences, such as Saudi Arabia funding political parties in the USA that claim to champion women’s rights. This is merely one example highlighting the vast disparity between the ideas presented to the public and the actual realities of power.
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" On November 27, 1095 , Pope Urban II makes perhaps the most influential speech of the Middle Ages, giving rise to the Crusades by calling all Christians in Europe to war against Muslims in order to reclaim the Holy Land, with a cry of “Deus vult!” or “God wills it!”"
I can’t tell whether this is shocking ignorance on your part, or the most idiotic attempt yet again to try and bluff, either way you have got to be kidding if you think the crusades was anything but a war caused by religion. Likewise the Holocaust stemmed from centuries of Christian Antisemitism.
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Having watched several threads with your opinions so robustly presented, I must admit , at first I thought you were arrogant, then I was convinced of your ignorance, then a combination of the two, then I was considering maybe autism, but now I realise you are a polymath of the 1st Order.
I shall read all your tremendously insightful offerings with a new appreciation. How kind of you to visit us, let alone contribute, and be so patient with some particular members’ doleful lack of cognisance of a true genius.
Thankyou “quim”.
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Tea everywhere, scalding hot, your fault…
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Nobody forces you to read my comments, and nobody forces you to answer me. But if you pretend to silence others by mocking their questions, let me tell you something: this is exactly what some people want - to silence dissenting opinions by using dishonest tricks. You don’t censor anyone; you just try to destroy them if they ask too many questions.
What is happening is a shame, and you are at the forefront of these dishonest practices.
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He never said anyone was forcing him to do either? Do you ever respond without a straw man caricature of what was said?
You haven’t been silenced at all? Many of your claims are deserving of mockery, and I can’t speak for anyone else but I could not care less what you think people want, if you can’t see how hilarious that kind of sweeping hyperbolic bombast is, it’s hard to know what to say. Your ideas, like everyone else’s here will be subjected to critical scrutiny, and stand on their own merit alone, or not as the case may be. Given your opening gambit was sentience in inorganic matter, and a ludicrous unevidenced leap from that to a deity, I am dubious they’ll get much purchase here, so you might want to develop a thicker skin.
He hasn’t tried to censor anyone, nor has anyone been censored?
Again if you can’t see the hilarity of that dishonest hyperbole the problem is entirely yours. Try answering some questions honestly, and stop distorting what has been said with endless straw man fallacies. No one is under any obligations to find anyone else’s ideas profound or even at all compelling, and mocking ideas is perfectly reasonable if the evidence suggests that is what they deserve.
No it isn’t, this is just another ludicrous response to a hurt ego.
I doubt @Old_man_shouts_at_cl has responded more than a couple of times to your drivel, and nothing in his post was dishonest, unlike your entirely mendacious caricature of his.
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And I thought you would be pleased.
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If you want to please me, present an interesting objection to what I say.
There are limitless objections, and all sound arguments, we cannot be held responsible for the fact you find unevidenced superstition more interesting than sound rational discourse.
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Oh… how deluded I was when I thought that Nazis were inspired by some ideas of Nietzsche - God is dead, and we have to create our values…
But it’s not Nietzsche’s fault; certainly, he couldn’t predict what other people would do in the future with his ideas…
I receive so many answers and face so many attacks that, quite literally, sometimes I want to answer a question, but I can’t find the post because I don’t remember in which debate or at what moment this comment was made.
I’m sorry, but it is impossible to argue against 7 people at the same time in different discussions.
Perhaps it’s my fault for commenting too much, of course.
That’s just one idea, any particular reason you focused on that one? A 1939 census put Christianity at around 93% of Germans, and this was in line with previous research and post war research, do you imagine those Christians disappeared then magically reappeared after the war? Hitler always claimed to be “doing god’s work” he said it repeatedly in Mein Kampf. The SS that ran the death camps had to be theists to get in, they had to swear their oath to Hitler “before god”. God with us is emblazoned on their belt buckles in German. The roots of the Holocaust itself was a result of centuries of Christian antisemitism, you’re bias here is risible.
Try and understand that if an atheist kills someone it means nothing about atheism, if all atheists were committing significantly more crimes like murder and rape than theists, then that at least would give me pause, but the opposite is true. Either way I’d remain an atheist, as there is no objective evidence for any deity. I cannot base my life or anything i believe on an unevidenced delusion. Yet the basis for my morality would retain the desire to avoid and where possible prevent all unnecessary suffering in humans, and to a lesser extent in all sentient animals. So that fact is entirely at odds with your claim, which you have failed to offer a shred of objective evidence to support, only the usual biased rhetoric.
He was one man, Germany had been overwhelmingly Christian for millenia. It’s just your bias that seems determined to give your religion a free pass from one of the worst atrocities in human history, maybe you think the persecution of the Jews was a coincidence, but sadly I have to observe the facts, without prejudice.
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Your icon is right there on the top R/H like everyone else’s, when you click on it it shows all the responses since you posted last in chronological order. What’s more if people use the quote function, as you keep attacking me for as dishonest, each quote links automatically to the original post, and with one click anyone can read the original post being responded to verbatim.
I have also seen you quote small parts of my posts and entirely ignore expansive challenges to your claims, in what I can only describe as dishonest evasion. For example you claimed atheists have no basis for morality. I asked you if you thought murder was immoral, then posted the 5 countries with the highest murder rates, and the 5 countries with the highest rates of atheism, and not one of the second group were in the first.
Laughably you not only dishonestly evaded the question which I repeated many times, you called the original post deceitful and offered a string of unevidenced anecdotal claims and rhetoric to justify that claim.
No it isn’t, I have done it, and this site makes it child’s play compared to many others I have visited. However even were this true, do you really imagine you repeatedly skipping the best objections to your spiel will be viewed as just a coincidence?
I’ll tell you what, prove me wrong and answer the question honestly now, do you think murder is immoral? Then explain if as you claimed, atheists have no basis for morality why globally atheists commit less murders per capita? Another coincidence no doubt.
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I don’t buy that for a second! You respond to a great many posts/questions with what only amounts to word salad or incorrect assumptions about what was asked/said.
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Precisely my impression as well, when his points or claims are properly refuted, he will ignore those parts of the posts, and often responds with dishonest and irrelevant fluff. He also uses the same tired old theist trick of moving on to other posters when he realises he won’t get his rhetoric passed some others, it’s as if they think they separate out the weak and the old from the herd, so to speak.
@Quim quite deliberate brought his beliefs and ideas to an atheist debate forum, and is now complaining there are too many people questioning it, does that sound like a credible reason for his evasion?
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Stop saying stupid things in multiple posts. Pick a single issue and stay with it. You won’t have that problem. Your posts are all over the frigging place with one inane assumption after another, and you are under the delusion that you are somehow being logical. What you are doing is preaching and trolling. I suspect it will not be long before you are invited to exit once again.,
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Cog, was this directed at me? It was my quote used so seems to be the case.
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I couldn’t agree more, but this is your own doing. You started those conversations typically by making false statements. Then because you can’t maintain the conversations, you don’t have to defend those ridiculous false statements (you just make more and more). You aren’t the first person to come here and do this. You aren’t even in the first 100. It is a normal occurrence here to have a religious people do what you are doing. The only thing you are accomplishing with this is convincing people you are an idiot (or a troll). If you want to be taken seriously, you will have to change course.
Personally I decided you are a troll when you refused to retract your plagiarized statements weeks ago; the only reason I’m even telling you this is in case I’m somehow wrong about you.
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The rest seems superfluous to be honest…
When you’re right, you’re right…and how.
Damn you’re on fire…
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