Contemplating the possibility of God

I really do hope, Tia, that things work out for her.

BTW - when and if “things” work out - and they will - either way or any way … the “worse” is death and everyone gets their turn (bwahhhahhaaaahaaaaa :smiling_imp:) just remember it is people NOT invisible intangible unevidenced beings that effect people.

An odd but funny coincidence. I bought a coaster as a stocking filler that said…

“There was an old lady who lived in a shoe, she had so many children, her fanny fell off.”

I have to admit it made me bellow with laughter…:grin:

@Whitefire13 appreciate your warmness towards my friend.
According the most everyone that I talked to, Mama Jordan couldn’t be helped.
I’ve been going the conventional route through the legal system, but it’s taking too long.
I’ve been praying, writing, and exhorting.
And things that have nothing to do with my actions but are a consequence of my faith have begun to happen.

Please keep up with us, even if you do nothing else.

Well - there you go - next time keep it between you and god. No people. Don’t tell anyone shit. Make sure others don’t say shit (like the sis-in-law, her sons) etc.

Otherwise it casts “doubt” on God miracles lol :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Here in Oz ,‘fanny’ is a lady’s front bottom.

How unfortunate for you. You’ll find out why shortly.

Oh, you’re in for a roller coaster ride. Buckle up.

Oh, I’m going to have fun with this one. Like I said, buckle up.

Okay, you can try answering the following:

[1] Why are mythology fanboys unable to agree amongst themselves on a global scale, which of our numerous mythologies is purportedly the “right” mythology, and adherents of a particular mythology unable to agree amongst themselves what said mythology is purportedly telling us?

[2] if your cartoon magic man ever existed, why was this entity incapable of stopping the goat herders that scribbled your mythology, from including risible elementary errors therein? Errors such as failure to count correctly the number of legs that an insect possesses, and asserting that genetics is purportedly controlled by coloured sticks?

[3] Why are the assertions about the events in the Genesis creation myth in completely the wrong order, with respect to modern scientific findings? A prime example being the assertion that plants were purportedly “created” by your magic man, before the Sun existed to power photosynthesis?

[4] For that matter, why was your magic man incapable of informing the goat herders that wrote your mythology, of vast classes of entities and interactions subsequently alighted upon by scientists, and placed by said scientists into usefully predictive, quantitative frameworks of knowledge of a sort completely absent from your mythology?

[5] Why do several million peer reviewed scientific papers, point to testable natural processes being responsible for the universe and its contents, without once bothering to reference your cartoon magic man? This includes recent papers from the cosmological physics literature, proposing testable mechanisms for the instantiation of the observable universe and its contents, just in case you’re unaware of this.

[6] The scientific papers I’ve mentioned above, demonstrate that for vast classes of entities and interactions, testable natural processes are sufficient to account for them, and as a corollary, that cartoon magic men from goat herder mythologies are superfluous to requirements and irrelevant. As a corollary, why should anyone familiar with that body of literature waste time with your mythology and its unsupported assertions?

[7] Mythology fanboys assert repeatedly here, that we need their various species of cartoon magic man in order to function as ethical beings. Given that there exists an abundant scientific literature, documenting the evidence for the evolutionary and biological basis of [1] our capacity for ethical thought, and [2] the motivation to act thereupon, why would anyone familiar with that literature need to bother with your mythology and its unsupported assertions?

[8] Why do mythology fanboys routinely and flagrantly violate the rules of proper discourse, when peddling their apologetics for their mythologies, in a manner that is also in violation of various “commandments” contained in said mythologies?

[9] Given that mythology is the least reliable means of disseminating factual information, why would your cartoon magic man bother with mythology as a means of transmitting any purported “message” it had for us?

[10] Why are mythology fanboys incapable of contemplating any other candidate for the “god role”, other than the cartoon magic men from their mythologies? I have a nice example of my own explorations to offer in this post on the old version of the forums, that illustrates neatly the sort of ideas that mythology fanboys seem incapable of entertaining.

Oh, by the way, ex recto apologetics of the sort that would be pointed and laughed at by an astute five year old, or regurgitation of unsupported mythological assertions as an ersatz for an answer, will be treated with the requisite well-deserved scorn and derision.

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Yes that’s exactly what it meant. :smile:

Well then, how can it fall off?

It was a joke, if you start to analyse the joke then it ceases to be a joke. It’s an old nursery rhyme, made into a joke.

Yair, sorry, humourless of me. I have a nasty tooth ache which has been coming and going for a week. My dentist is closed until 18 January. Have an appointment with an emergency service in about an hour.

Speaking of bits falling off: When I was very small, one of my dotty aunts told me that if I ate too much sugar my arms and legs would fall off.

Sorry to hear that, toothache is the worst.

Really sorry to hear it. I know exactly how stressful that is for me. I have only found one dentist in Korea that can work on my mouth and he is 2 hours away by train. He has done all my implants. I have some unique dental issues that have to do with the density of my jawbone and the length of the roots on my teeth. Conventional numbing techniques do not work. This guy figured it out and he was the first dentist I have been too that has been pain free in 40 years, He gets all my business, and that sometimes means a bit of a wait. I wish you luck and a quick return to your witty self.

Eek :grimacing: sucks Cranky!

I’ll give you guys a reason to hate me. My intestines are fucked - but my teeth :tooth:? Awesome :sunglasses:. Never had a cavity. Wisdom grew in no problems. I had braces in my early twenties (I paid for) but aside from that…

Thanks guys. Managed to see a dentist yesterday and the pain has been relieved. Should last until I can see my dentist in January. I need two front teeth removed and will require a small denture. There is no universal health care in Australia. However, my private health fund will cover 60 to 70%… Yesterday’s visit was $214. Cost to me $50

The number of teeth in my head keeps slowly dwindling, having begun in 1968. :face_with_monocle:

After consideration, I’ll take the teeth. Yes, when it hurts it’s really nasty, but that’s never for long. Not a chronic condition like Crohn’s.

I’m truly pleased for you to learn your teeth are OK.

PS I seem to remember a torture scene in a movie involving teeth. “Marathon Man?” Laurence Olivier and Dustin Hoffman? .

PPS My dad had dentures for his two upper front teeth. Lost them playing “sill mid on” in a cricket match in 1935. I always refused to play that position; you’re right on top of the batsman.

Is it safe?

Going to the dentist has always been about my least favourite way to spend my time. Of course it’s come a long way in the last 20-30 years in terms of not causing the patient agony.

Yesterday, the dentist accidently hit a nerve with his syringe. Fair dinkum, I can’t remember a more excruciating pain. (in so far as one can actually remember pain),

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I’m pretty lucky, having found a succession of excellent dentists. Gave up on finding a free NHS dentists long ago, and pay private. It’s not that expensive here tbh.

Had one exception when I broke a tooth a few years ago, and a good looking female dentist from Poland working locally, made a botched repair. I was between dentists. Anyway it got infected , the pain was attention grabbing.

I found the dentist I have now, and he pulled what was left of the tooth, I actually felt the pain start to subside through the anesthetics, and 30 minutes after arriving, was on my merry way, and that includes x rays.

Same dentist did a route canal to save another tooth that was giving me some grief, and again he was so good, made me wonder why people fuss about route canals.

Touch wood, all I’ve had since then are check ups.

Indeed.

I can’t really complain about my dentists. I haven’t always looked after my teeth as well as I could have. Dentistry isn’t covered by our universal health care, and there have been times I simply didn’t have the money. Got heaps done in the army because it was free.

A lot of Aussies go to Thailand as medical and dental tourists. Cosmetic surgery and major dental work is a fraction of what they cost here and apparently the facilities are 5 star . I suppose there’s an argument for some dental procedures such as implants. However, I think for cosmetic surgery, such people are morons. —general anaesthetic has risks at the best of times, and the risk increases with age.

My nan nearly died having her third lot of cosmetic surgery when she was over 70. An absurdly vain woman, she had lied to the surgeon about her age. Her date of birth does not appear on her tombstone, only her date of death. I loved my nan to bits, but she could be quite dotty.

I guess I can’t talk. These days I avoid having my photo taken because they make me look old. (Well naturally, I am old)

The three teeth I have are still great for nibbling on ears.