Why do you continue to assume I’m an evolution denier like a young earth creationist? Not everyone is limited at reading the Bible only at a literal/surface level.
Actually I do think gravity is just a theory which it is and not just because we don’t know anything about the force of gravity. Did you want me to explain what a theory is? It is just a model that makes useful predictions, it doesn’t explain how the world really works. A law is just a theory formulated in mathematical terms.
Theories don’t explain how the world actually works, they’re just models. For example Newtonian gravity was replaced by general relativity which itself is also wrong (not compatible with quantum theory) but Newtonian gravity is useful enough for nasa to use but It doesn’t actually explain how the world works. Again, It is just a model and we don’t actually know anything about it. No gravity particle has been detected and we can’t unify it with the other forces in theory. So we actually know nothing about gravity (I’ve heard Neil degrade Tyson say this in an interview) we just have models like Newtonian and general relativity which are known to be wrong because they’re classical theories not working with quantum which is fundamental.
I did read a chariot was found at bottom of Red Sea so people use that for evidence. I’m not sure how it could’ve been parted but I did read someone try to explain Jesus walking on water as their being stone pillars known to be in Sea of Galilee and that is how he appeared to walk on water. I’m not sure I believe that but it was said a local fisherman could’ve known about it
I don’t understand the question? You know what global means right? You’ve read the Noah flood myth right? You seem to be spinning off into yet more claims and straw men.
I’ll say it one more time then, the geological record demonstrates irrefutably that no GLOBAL flood has ever occurred, what is hard to understand about that?
Yes global meaning worldwide. If sea levels rose hundreds of feet that would flood coastlines around the world. Like you said it is impossible for all land on earth to be underwater so it is kind of stupid to define a global flood as that.
Not it isn’t as that is precisely what it means? this though is hardly the only stupid claim the bible makes, though why you’re telling me is unclear? I don’t believe a global flood has ever occurred since the geological record demonstrates irrefutably it has not. I am not going to quibble over semantics, global means the whole world.
Yes I accept biological evolution theories as “facts” but I also think gods/aliens interfere with our evolution like creating hybrids which is what you could say Adam and Eve were.
Theories don’t explain how the world actually works, they’re just models. For example Newtonian gravity was replaced by general relativity which itself is also wrong (not compatible with quantum theory) but Newtonian gravity is useful enough for nasa to use but It doesn’t actually explain how the world works. Again, It is just a model and we don’t actually know anything about it. No gravity particle has been detected and we can’t unify it with the other forces in theory. So we actually know nothing about gravity (I’ve heard Neil degrade Tyson say this in an interview) we just have models like Newtonian and general relativity which are known to be wrong because they’re classical theories not working with quantum which is fundamental.
Again the theory just explains how the model works not how the world actually works. Like Newtonian gravity theories use gravitational to make useful prediction but it is just classical theory and not quantum which is how the world really works. And once you get into quantum theory it becomes difficult to interpret it to how the world actually works so again you’re left with just a model for making predictions (like the Copenhagen interpretation).
Bible doesn’t even say that as far as I know. It seems to just be a common misconception to interpret it that way. It could just mean local flood as in the known world was flooded or it could mean the whole world was flooded by sea levels rising catastrophically.
The waters rose and increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the water.* 19
They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered.* 20
The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than twenty feet.*
Nice try at attempting to put a spin on the great flood. But genesis is very specific, it describes everything, pointing out that even the very tops of the highest mountains were at least twenty feet under water.
So no then you don’t accept the scientific facts of species evolution, natural selection and shared ancestry, you can’t say you do then add unevidenced woo woo that contradicts the claim. Adam and Eve are fictional biblical characters.
Yes scientific theories explain how certain natural phenomena work, and no they’re not JUST models. They are supported by objective evidence, they’d not be accepted scientific theories otherwise.
Nope, though Einstein’s theory did modify and expand on Newtonian theories, it did not replace them, they still work.
Straw man, it explains how gravity works, that’s why it WORKS for NASA.
Straw man fallacy.
No it isn’t, just a model, you just said NASA used it and it worked, thus it has real world applications, dear oh dear.
Straw man fallacy.
So you think NASA used it without it providing any knowledge? This is getting funnier and funnier.
Never heard of him. At least get his name right before you misrepresent him. I think I ma going to have to dial back the crazy now, and let someone wade through this stuff.
Article I just pulled up says LIGO has only produced false alarms.
There is supposed to be a graviton particle in quantum theory. String theory proposes a graviton but it hasn’t been detected.
Here is video of Neil degrasse Tyson saying we don’t know what gravity is. He mentions einstein theory being like space time bending by mass but we know this theory is wrong/incomplete because it isn’t quantum renormalizable. It isn’t how the world really works just like Newtonian gravity isn’t.
We don’t yet have verified quantum theory of gravity which would unify the other forces. Still they’re all just theories because the interpretation becomes problematic in quantum theory (see Copenhagen interpretation). They make useful predictions but still difficult to understand how it actually describes reality. Maybe there could even be a level beyond quantum theory we don’t know about yet making quantum theory incomplete/wrong?
I’m not ignoring evidence, get over yourself (I’m just here to discuss stuff with honest intentions with my own beliefs, not trying to win a fight with you).
I just didn’t know the Bible well enough. That does seem impossible if the highest local peaks were like 15,000 feet. You mentioned how the earth doesn’t have enough water for this but it is interesting that the ancient sources say boiling water actually came from the interior of the earth so maybe that would be enough? I already think the ark story is an allegory so doesn’t mean much to me but it is interesting info to discuss
What article was there and it’s origin? Because LIGO is presently producing valid information. So good that the scientific community is confident it does work and are now hard at work in building the next generation of gravity wave detectors, LISA.
He was being facetious, and immediately said we can describe and explain what it does to other things. we can measure it, predict with it, so when you claimed:
…then that was a woeful lie. I have to ask now, is English your first language? As the only other alternative to you having a woeful grasp of the English language, is that you’re being relentlessly dishonest.
You said scientific theories don’t explain anything, well I can’t say I am overly shocked that Neil deGrasse Tyson has contradicted you, but it is pretty funny he is doing it in a fucking video you have linked, again do you actually speak English or are you skimming this stuff for what you want.
Yes that was perfectly clear, odd how you make it sound like that’s my fault though.
It doesn’t say local, you’re back to lying again. The highest peak is mount Everest, Good grief. You just make shit up…
Fuck me, I will try bullet points.
No global flood has ever occurred, the geologically evidence demonstrates this irrefutably.
Unevidenced ancient superstitious claims are not relevant.
Are you seriously asking if an unspecified amount of water from an idiotic and archaic superstition might have been enough for a global flood?
The interior of the earth is not full of water.
THE FUCKING GEOLOGICAL RECORD DEMSONTRATES IRREFUTABLY NO GLOBAL FLOOD HAS EVER OCCURRED FFS!!! That’s evidence see, and you just ingored it to reel off an unevidenced claim see.???
