Buddhism - a religion for atheists

@ Ratispissed :rage:

FYI woo woo isn’t an “insult”

Adjective

  1. relating to or holding unconventional beliefs regarded as having little or no scientific basis, especially those relating to spirituality, mysticism , or alternative medicine.

noun

  1. unconventional beliefs regarded as having little or no scientific basis, especially those relating to spirituality, mysticism, or alternative medicine.

Eg … Trump recommending injecting or injecting bleach is woo woo.

The Fairy GodMother creator is woo woo.

Sorry if you “feel” differently, but personal experience often falls into this category - not just for you, but it has happened for me as well…when an explanation or interpretation for the experience is “supernatural” (outside of nature) OR “miraculous” (outside of natural Law) etc.

I’d be curious to see if those that don’t have an “inner voice” get convo time with the Buddha…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u69YSh-cFXY

The end of suffering is non-attachment. Non-attachment to family, friends, desires, life, education, even dreams of making the world a better place. And these assholes believe they are practicing it while being attached to their stinking religious beliefs. robes, meditation, and the teachings of the Buddha, as if he was something special. It’s all a crock of shit,.

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OR this fuck up (cool fuck up mind you - and only from my POV)

It’s the “claim” you’ve attached to your personal experience that is up for debate and requires evidence - NOT THE EXPERIENCE ITSELF … what if the conversation was “negative” and it turned out “the Devil :smiling_imp: made me do it?”

WHAT the fuck do religions have against “this life” - THE ONE WE KNOW WE HAVE???

Jesus fuckin’Christ - Christians are “suffer for Jesus this time ‘round - leave off “the world” … sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice…

The Buddhist’s are about ignoring life - work hard at becoming self-enveloped psychopaths - DON’T try to empathize with another or care for another…NO it’s a trap!

Personally, I embrace it all - ALL of it. Including “what some label suffering”. BIG fucking deal that there’s suffering… ohhhhh - scary … BOO :ghost:

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So this then…

Woo woo…

I’m inclined to agree, and rat’s display of anger aimed at me in post after post does not exactly suggest detachment to me. He can’t even stay detached from posts in an internet forum that disagree with him.

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SheldonAtheist
Buddhists are just as “Holier than thou” as the Christians. I happen to like the Koans and actually agree with some of the philosophy… but face it… people can point to good shit in the bible too. No one needs to believe the delusions to recognize that which is human.

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I did that “cessation of perception and feeling” thing at the age of 17.

Five years later I got really transcendental with LSD.

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A) You’re probably doing it wrong and have been since you were 20
B) You can thank the Buddha for first expounding the intricate workings of meditating on the breath

"Now how is mindfulness of in-&-out breathing developed & pursued so as to be of great fruit, of great benefit?

"There is the case where a monk, having gone to the wilderness, to the shade of a tree, or to an empty building, sits down folding his legs crosswise, holding his body erect, and setting mindfulness to the fore.[1]Always mindful, he breathes in; mindful he breathes out.

" [1] Breathing in long, he discerns, ‘I am breathing in long’; or breathing out long, he discerns, ‘I am breathing out long.’ [2] Or breathing in short, he discerns, ‘I am breathing in short’; or breathing out short, he discerns, ‘I am breathing out short.’ [3] He trains himself, ‘I will breathe in sensitive to the entire body.’[2] He trains himself, ‘I will breathe out sensitive to the entire body.’ [4] He trains himself, ‘I will breathe in calming bodily fabrication.’[3] He trains himself, ‘I will breathe out calming bodily fabrication.’

For your education and reading pleasure.

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.118.than.html

Who’d you learn from and what peer reviewed journals has he or she been mentioned in?

[quote=“Sheldon, post:198, topic:253”]

I never denied this, what I denied was your embellished lie that I claimed it needed to be in peer reviewed scientific journals. Also the context where I asked about peer review as one example, which you misrepresented.

Now you’re trying to eel wriggle your way out. As if peer reviewed journals are the credential that qualifies anyone to talk about suffering and the end of suffering.

You’re merely appealing to the “scientific fallacy” which states that anything subjected to the scientific method is both verifiable and verified.

Come on, Sheldon. When was the last time you suffered? And what did you do? Did you run to your local Alma Mater’s reference section? Or did you try to reduce or eliminate the suffering by some other means?

We’re talking about human experience. If you knew anything about the Buddha you would know that he suffered greatly before achieving enlightenment.

It’s an obvious insult on your part to reference the “scientific method” to make me sound like a retard because I personally believe the Buddha was a qualified teacher on suffering and it’s end.

Qualifications for knowledge of suffering and it’s end include actual suffering and a little bit of luck to find the way out.

Twisting and turning the tale. You, sir - are guilty of the “Scientific Phallacy” - which I have just named and defined (you’re very welcome - you can now add that to your pocket book list of phallacies that you rely on every time you read something even remotely insulting to you).

That is practicably a tautology.

Well … then we can call it the “scientific tautological phallacy”. :+1:

Ps. What’s the difference between “practically” and “practicably”. I know it changes the sentence, I just don’t know how.

Well, if you used “practically”, then I’d know exactly what you were meaning.

But you didn’t … eww! Is that a crack rock on the road??! Oops. Just a pebble.

Hey!!! Another one. Oops again. Just a pebble.

Bare with me. I could be up all night at this.

Science is fully of fallacies. Luckily; science isn’t about truth, so that isn’t a problem.

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Exactly. Science is about money and funding and fear mongering and engineering viruses to wean off the elderly and then make another shit load of more money by presenting the vaccine they engineered alongside the virus right before they released it.

Science is an all boys club filled with intellectually superior men and women who have found a way to use knowledge as a form of bait in universities to take money from the young; or as blackmail in the case of big pharma; or monopolization in the case of Monsanto; or political fear mongering and real life or death scenarios as in the case of a genetically engineered virus.

EDIT: Kidding about the genetically engineered virus. I like to subscribe to the zoonotic transfer theory and I hope the vaccine under survey in Oxford is a success.

This pandemic has been a once in a lifetime trial for anyone alive today - especially the most vulnerable and I wouldn’t want to undermine the seriousness of it with bogus conspiracy theories.

Thank you.

Rat spit. Eww!!! A crack rock!!! Oops. Nope. Just a pebble. :wink:

Well - Jesus Christ - glad to read you took back “the engineered virus”
conspiracy.

Holy fuck - is this your only view of science?

People often forget that Science isn’t built on facts; it’s built on people - very smart people. It’s a very elite little group of men and women who have proven them selves worthy through grad school and then on and on to their PhD.

It took me ten years to get my BSc. It isn’t even worth the ink printed on my diploma (which I’m honestly sure I’ve lost in a pile of junk).

I was the smartest kid in my home town of 40,000 people. Then I went to the big Uni. Not so smart anymore. 4th year math class? No thanks. Even if I still cared at that point I would have still fallen behind the class. Fucking Linear Systems. Nyar? Know anything about Linear Systems?

Umm. Back to this off topic point. Science is done by very intelligent people who want to make money and get funding from private companies, industries, and the government. And the competition is fierce.

I truly believe they’ve monopolized knowledge for the gain of money.

Scientists are the shamans and astrologists of our age.

The consequences are lethal and destructive.

Still waiting for AI to decide if it wants to keep us around or not :wink:

So that is why you are obsessed with penises. You lost the ability to hold an erection the moment you entered Uni.

I remember being sick in grade 9 and missing three days of classes on basic introduction to algebra. Right at the start!

When I came back, my jaw dropped to the ground and I got a nervous erection. I did, however, fill in the “blanks” (which at the time, yes, I was still shooting blanks. I mean I was 14. That’s another story). LONGSTORYSHORT - I basically back worked my way into algebra and never looked back.

Calculus? Fuck off with Calculus. I can do calculus in my sleep.

But Linear Systems? Fuck me. Professor Anstee was my man. I used to approach him at the front of the class. What an asshole. No help at all. Sink or swim kind of guy. Had a goddamn theory named after him in the goddamn book we were using in class. Nyar? Linear Systems? Child’s play?

Well, it fucked me over good and I’ve been flaccid Freddy ever since. (That’s what my wife calls me).

So yes. My penis obsession started when I got a 13% grade in Linear Systems.

You fucktard! Thank the Buddah? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Meditation was first developed in India. The oldest documented evidence of the practice of meditation are wall arts in the Indian subcontinent from approximately 5,000 to 3,500 BCE, showing people seated in meditative postures with half-closed eyes.[2] Written evidence of any form of meditation was first seen in the Vedas, which are sacred texts of Hinduism, around 1500 BCE.

***Buddhism originated in ancient India as a Sramana tradition sometime between the 6th and 4th centuries BCE.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha… Who is the ‘I’ doing the berating? Where does “in” begin and where it “out.” You think something crosses your lips and it is in? HA HA HA HA HA HA… Ignorant little Ratty!