If you feel persecuted for your Xtian beliefs here then why exactly are you here?
I’m just not buying into your bullshit you know? I don’t think I’m the only one. You play these little games where you come on to an Atheist forum and dishonestly play the victim and it just isn’t working.
If you go on Facebook. It’s not uncommon to see Christian groups getting their digs in and talking about shit like this. Especially some of you being extremely judgmental and condescending towards anyone who doesn’t believe in your religion. You’re a hypocrite plain and simple.
Please, pray tell, what does that have to do with your 1st Amendment Rights? And, honestly, do you REALLY believe you are the only child on the planet who was indoctrinated into his parents’ religion of choice? News Flash: YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL IN THAT REGARD. And I promise I’m not trying to be a smartass when I say this, but you really do need to get the fuck over it already. Either that, or you can feel free to spend the rest of your life STILL being mentally and emotionally affected by the very thing you despise. Because right now, even though you escaped the indoctrination, the religion you detest still has control over you.
Like it or not, parents are allowed to raise their children in whatever belief system they choose in the area of religions. It is their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to do so. And it is that very same Constitutional Right that allows YOU to NOT believe and NOT worship anymore. Once you become an adult and are no longer under the rules of your mommy and daddy, you have the FREEDOM to no longer abide by their religious beliefs. Take away THEIR rights to raise the child in their faith, and you automatically take away YOUR rights to leave that faith when you get older. Is any of this sinking in yet?
Try this… Say you have children, and you want to raise them to not believe in any god(s). Here in the U.S. you have every right to do that. But what if you got a knock on your door one day, and there stands a government official telling you that they will take your children away if you keep teaching them to be atheists? Or, hell, for that matter, let’s say you were raising them to be Christian! And you are told to stop doing that, or they would be taken from you. How well do you think you would handle that? Bottom line is, WE HAVE FREEDOM OF RELIGION FOR A REASON. Let it go already. Be thankful and happy you escaped. And you are NOT going to change those who are still stuck in it. So stop trying.
Something else I just remembered, and it is something you SERIOUSLY need to consider and appreciate. It’s one thing to be happy and thankful that you escaped the brainwashing in the first place. That alone is cause for celebration. However, consider the fact you are actually allowed to be free and open about your lack of belief. You do not have to hide it or live in fear of being rounded up by authorities and thrown in prison and/or executed. The rights that allow them to raise you in their religion are the VERY SAME rights that allow YOU to change your mind later.
We have had numerous people visit this site who live in constant fear that their families, friends, or the local authorities will discover they no longer believe in their country’s religion. So, please forgive me if I do not get all worked up over your wanting to hold on to anger caused by your parents exercising their Freedom of Religion rights.
Oh man, sick burn!!! Lol, I use to say dumb shit like that when I believed in jesus too. Gloating about your belief is a sin you know that right?
Is that how jesus would act? Was he better than others, did he talk down to and dismiss nonbelievers? Would he walk into an atheists space and try to troll them into believing with petty insults?
A perspective that has been quite useful to me is this:
When one becomes able to begin the process of introspection, it is imperative that there is an acknowledgement of the “boulders” blocking the path to self-awareness… In some cases, these are placed there by family, as in the case of religious or political indoctrination, mistreatment, disregard for intellectuality, misinformation, and the like.
Likely, there are as many or more giant “boulders” blocking one’s path which have been placed by oneself via misunderstanding, confirmation bias, prejudice, self aggrandizement, lack of information, resistance to change, desire for validation, unfulfilled need for recognition of negative experiences, unwillingness to accept responsibility for oneself, and the so many more mountains of self-imposed obstacles.
It may be functionally expedient to address the “granite barriers” one at a time. Examining these things in an objective manner (inasmuch as that is possible) will sometime result in an understanding that drains the power over oneself which has been granted to these things by us. Indeed. the power to “control” us which we claim these things possess (consciously or not), has been granted by us. That power can also be revoked by us.
We need to be grateful for the opportunities to escape the bonds of imposed thinking, by humbling ourselves to the reality of our own responsibility for the affect the truckloads of rip rap piled in front of us has over us.
To finish beating this metaphor to death; Grab a hammer and a big-ass chisel and get to work on one at a time…
Baby Christ on a virgin fucking cracker, another theist who doesn’t know what persecution looks like? Is there a factory somewhere in the holy land/ Alabama that churns out you folks?
Still, I shall offer the following in empathy because my psychologist says to try and be the bigger person…
Oh-my-GOD!!! The NERVE of some parents who do not allow the child to do whatever he/she wants! How DARE they not allow the child to run his/her own life while living under their roof and providing food, shelter, and clothing for it! Oh the injustice of it all! … Jeeeeeee-zus, dude… Really? As a child you didn’t get to listen to the music you wanted to hear because it was evil? What were they suppose to do? Buy you a six pack of beers, a pack of smokes, and a stack of Playboy magazines for your 10th birthday? Booooo-freakin’-hooooo… Cry me a river… Holy shit, man, I grew up terrified I would go to hell just for THINKING ABOUT getting a tattoo when I got older. It was a SIN to “defile the Lord’s Temple” (aka: my body). Nevermind the fact that almost every adult I knew smoked multiple packs of cigarettes a day and hacked up half a lung every time they had a coughing fit. But don’t even THINK about getting a nice piece of harmless art on your body. Hell, as for music, my wife borrowed a friends “Prince” album cassette as a teenager. While listening to it in her bedroom, her dad walked in and heard “Darling Nicky” playing. Without a word, he immediately removed the cassette from the player and smashed it to pieces. Told her she would not be listening to that type of “sinful” music in his home. So, again please stop acting as though you are the only person alive who had to endure such shit as a kid.
And just because they still believe in their religion, YOU treat THEM as if they are stupid ignorant assholes. But how DARE they call YOU a bad person for doing that!
Uh-huh, right… Sure… Yeah, well, it’s all fun-n-games until YOU are the one sitting next to his Bingo card when he misjudges the air currents caused by the ceiling fans.
I don’t. I know I’m not the only one on here whose put up with this shit. What gave you that idea?
I make these topic and talk about it because I know you guys can relate. I know some of you went through it too. I just like talking about it with people who had dealt with it more or less. That’s all.
I didn’t then. If people start treating you like shit on a certain subject you learn from it. I didn’t think people would throw that big of a bitch fit about me not believing in their god. I got sick of their attitude and I learned. So like yeah, I don’t put up with it anymore. Cause and effect.
Not my fault. He kept flying by while singing “Fly Me To the Moon.” I was only trying to help. How the hell was I suppose to know he was only practicing for an audition in a musical play?
lol no I don’t go out in public and start feuds with random people proselytizing in public. There’s been 1 or 2 people at work that quit to promote their religion that I got annoyed with and butted heads (in the past). I just like coming on here and bitching about them. In my real life, I just don’t have anything to do with anyone whom I know is a Christian. I distance myself (far away) from them. I’m afraid if I get close I’ll have to deal with their superstitious bullshit and I don’t want to. The moment they start talking about church, I cut it short and go. I don’t bother telling them what I "don’t’ believe in anymore. I don’t want to spend 5 - 10 minutes explaining to them why I don’t believe in it and I’m no longer interested in hearing them preach at me why I should.