This is a genuine question, as an ex-atheist. Atheists constantly assert their own opinion as if it holds any truth value, and then claim truth is relative to the subject. Atheists have no grounding for metaphysical categories such as morality, truth and ethics. Sounds like cope, lol.
As do theists. We just don’t claim that some god’s opinion = ours to “legitimize” our views.
Morality is grounded in empathy and compassion. Ethics is just practical systems of applied morality. The idea that some despot in the sky has to decree morality and then back it up with threats in order for it to be legitimate is just cover for the immoral things that theists regularly do in the names of their gods and contrary to empathy. Watch any of the footage currently coming out of Minneapolis for reference.
This is Tu quoque, theists have transcendental claims for why we have the ability to assert moral truths.
How is that grounded in empathy and compassion, as well as keeping it mind independent. Unless you hold to subjectivism, which refutes your position.
This is a low effort response. You still haven’t addressed the point, and you are still asserting truth claims with no grounding, the actions of followers in a religion doesn’t therefore make the religion bad. This is a genetic fallacy.
Why do atheists do xyz? People who are identified as atheist are not a many-legged creature with one brain. Try addressing an individual. Has someone here asserted a “truth claim” with which you take issue? Try providing specific examples. Such generalized (and, imo, accusatory) challenges are far too broad to address sensibly.
And, btw, as someone who is identified as atheist, any critiques about religion I share are in response to religious philosophies proffered by an adherent of it.
The point is not that I take issue, the point is they have no justifiable grounding. Unless you can provide some.
Thank you for sharing your opinion.
However, as pointed out, atheists are individuals (and individualistic), so if you have found a particular atheist “asserting a truth claim” YOU have grounds to contest, then I suggest you do it otherwise you are going to be ignominiously dismissed as a troll.
Here’s a truth claim for you: There is not one (contemporary to his alleged life (1-33CE)) written or oral reference to the jesus figure as described in the gospels. Not one.
Edit to add “truth claim”.
Is this a truth claim? We cannot act atheists constantly critique biblical morality, or other actions related to that context.
I’ll reword the question…Has someone here asserted a “truth claim” you consider to have no justifiable grounding?
Try backing your assertion / accusation up with something specific!
Can you rewrite in English please?
WTAF?
20,20,20,20,20
We cannot act as if atheists don’t constantly critique biblical morality, or other actions related to that context.
I hardly think you are qualified to make assertions about all people who are identified with any label.
Stop with your generalizations. Provide specifics or you will be escorted out.
Please give details and names of these constantly criticising atheists.
I did give you an example of an assertion of truth aka fact…going to answer?
Where?
Matt Dillahunty, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, etc.
You need to address that with them.
OK? I don’t care.
mentioned below
So why are you posting here? Are they members of the forum?
They are literally atheists by definition, if you put yourself under as an atheist, I will use the same criteria against you.
No? But they hold the same core beliefs as you, an athiest.
