Whoo hoo! Is it enough?

Now let’s hope the SCOTUS declines hearing the appeal of this decision.

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Just waiting for the appeal that his lawyers were crap and he needs a do over with new ones.

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Well, he can’t do this in any of the civil cases. So far as doing it for a criminal case, his attorney (if he could find one) would have to file the appeal with specifics about what was done wrong and the court would then choose to allow or not allow the appeal.

Whoo hoo! ~$365 million!

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Caught that news item earlier.

He’s also banned from taking out any loans from any bank operating in NY state, and from holding any executive position or financial controlling interest in any NY state business enterprise.

He is staring crippling restrictions hard in the face, and they won’t blink first.

A thought occurs to me at this point … namely, if Trump Tower is valued at $350 million or thereabouts genuinely, as opposed to having whatever inflated value he conned the banks into accepting as loan collateral, then having that confiscated from him is going to hurt big time.

Which of course still leaves him having to pony up $88 million to the woman he libelled after he’s had $350 million plus in assets confiscated.

Though the serious fun and games will start to come into play in the classified documents trial. Espionage charges have a habit of being accompanied by hardcore prison sentences post conviction.

If he’s found guilty of espionage, even the most wingnut members of the Rethuglicon Party are going to have to pretzel themselves into full blown Calabi-Yau manifolds in order to keep clinging to him as a Presidential candidate. The Dems will have a field day if they do - “do you want as President someone who let the Russians sniff around US national security documents?”

After that, the sedition charges relating to Jan 6th will be just icing on the cake.

What would really hurt is having it turned into a homeless shelter.

So if the courts have determined he can’t operate a business and that he will need the approval of a monitor to spend any money is this the man you want running your country, decidng your medical insurance drawing up your budgets. Trump’s antics have written some great Dem ads. themselves

Even if he sold it for 350 million, he wouldn’t get 350 million. He doesn’t own it outright, there is a mortgage on it. There are also liens on it. And he would have to pat capital gains tax on the sale price.
Additionally, the amount of money he owes for this latest finding (~350 mill for him personally) does not include the 9% interest, which increases the total substantially.
Anyway you look at it, he’s justifiably fucked.

Edited to add: Although he can use RNC and PAC money to pay his legal fees, he cannot use those funds to pay for the penalties levied via this and the Carroll cases.

Apparently he has nearly 600million in cash assets, plus his numerous stooges collecting money under various pretexts like the “Patriots Vault” etc.
However, what is not mentioned except by the NY state AG is that over 100 million in mandatory interest is already on the table taking the Orange Idiots liabilites to more than 550 million so far, not counting his appeal.
What made me and Captain Cat really chuckle was that the entire Drumpf Organisation is now under “New Management” with honesty and accountability being imposed by a new Compliance Director working under the Federal Judge, who was appointed with the agreement of Habba etc who are now screaming “bias!” after her scathing report on the state of the Trumpfs accounts. Still wiping the tears from my trouser legs.

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tRump claims he’s a victim and the loans were paid back.

Simply put, the fraud is in the interest rate charged and the granting of the loans.

Say you wanted a $10,000 loan. IF it’s “cash secured” you’d be charged P+1% and approved fast. Say you convince the bank that you have cash in another bank to secure the loan (you lie and say your don’t want to lose you savings interest rate) You have fraudulent documents supporting your claim. The bank grants it. You’ve cheated and stolen.

Had you been truthful, they could have secured your house equity, vehicle or went unsecured (all have a higher rate of interest depending on security). This is to off-set the risk… they may have even said “no”.

He lied. He stole. He cheated. He’s paying :heavy_check_mark:

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And it’s now getting worse for him. As explained here:

It’s now looking extremely likely, that all his bluster about being a multibillionaire is just more smoke and mirrors. If he had the asserts to hand, he could have simply dumped the requisite sum in the court escrow account and then appealed with that out of the way. Instead, by delaying, he’s adding at least $3 million a month in additional interest to his liabilities, possibly considerably more, and his financial “empire” might be exposed any day now to be not even as substantial as a house of cards.

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It will not get better if he keeps Hubba et al…Engerons one line dismissal of their motion for a stay of judgement just cracked me up.

I know none of them are practising NY attorneys but hell, one would think they would know how to prepare?

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Meanwhile, some kind contributor on another forum has pointed me at this:

Biden’s brain is aging: Trump’s brain is dementing

From that article:

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The content behind that link is scary. Thank you for sharing.

Turns out he’s appealing against the $350 million fraud trial verdict.

That’s going to bite him on the arse hard.

Because even if he appeals, he still has to deposit a vast sum of money (around $450 million) in a court escrow account, and he’s racking up $112,000 interest charges per day.

I suspect we’ll be seeing a spectacular crash and burn in the not too distant future.

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Betcha he’s asking Putin if he can borrow a couple of bucks.

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Or one of those billionaire buddies of the supreme court.

Oh, ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA HA …

So much for him being the financial big cheese he claims to be.

I’m willing to bet that his property portfolio is worth less than 25% of the figure he’s given. Indeed, I’m minded to note a comparison that’s already entered the public domain. Namely, Trump Tower.

Cheetolini claims it’s worth $300 million. More rational valuers place it at just $52 million.

If that sort of disparity is replicated across the entire “business empire”, the the NY fraud judgement leaves him with about as much money as a 1920s shoeshine boy.

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What I want to know is who is willing to put up any bond for Trump. We could end up with a president deeply indebted to who knows who. I guess there’s really nothing all that new about that, but one argument I’d heard for electing him in the first place was that he was personally wealthy enough not to be “bought”.

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Forget about those the Trump shoes. The next big thing from that camp are Trump diapers:

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emphasized text"Why Trump may soon rake in a $4 billion payday despite his legal problems"

[CITATION](https://Why Trump may soon rake in a $4 billion payday despite his legal problems)

Whilst I hope that the Donald does not get elected, and is ruined and indicted, I am afraid I am not confident any of that will happen. I guess we can hope, but I have a nagging fear my hopes will not come to fruition, my best hope is that enough Americans will again recognise they have the power to stop tango man getting another (disastrous) 4 years in the White House.