What the actual fuck?!
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Welcome to the Middle Ages.
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Next thing you know, women will want to be able to drive, have their own bank accounts, and vote!
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If women would just stay barefoot and naked in the kitchen and bedroom, those laws wouldnât be necessary. Duh!.. (hauling ass toward nearest exit before being attacked by angry mob)âŚ
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Youâll be fine. You just have to find your audience. I recommend the religious community. They often seem to embrace misogyny.
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Theyâre making it harder for people to get divorced in Missouri. A lot of married couples in these situations end up living apart. Iâve met women who were married but they were estranged from their husband and lived with their boyfriend. So this state law is bullshit and doesnât work. It just encourages people not to get married.
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Worse than that, I think this particular situation encourages spousal abuse and promotes a mind-set that women are merely tanks for procreation.
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This is sad! I am very familiar and way to close to this issue. I found this story on the same Missouri law.
Why Missouri currently doesnât allow divorce during pregnancy | AP News
These are some out takes:
âThe Missouri law on divorce does not specifically bar finalizing divorces for pregnant women, but âwhether the wife is pregnantâ is one of the eight pieces of information â along with things like where the parties live and when they separated â thatâs required when someone files for divorce.â
"Nevada Smith, a St. Charles, Missouri, lawyer who handles divorces, said it makes sense that judges will not finalize divorces during a pregnancy because a child would impact the custody and child support terms of a divorce. And divorces usually take months, even in the rare ones without contested issues.
âYou kind of need to know if you have two children or if you have three,â he said.
Or a child born with special needs could change the equation, too."
"âPeople have complained that itâs so outlandish that we could force someone to stay married to the batterer,â said Hayes, who said that in 25 years of divorce law, she can think of just four cases she handled that involved pregnancy. âItâs not intended to be punitive to her but to account for the childâs needs.â
She said the first step in dealing with an abusive relationship is to seek a protective order, not divorce."
Both articles state facts. Both articles present a different perspective.
The old saying, âYou are what you eat!â can apply to what one reads.
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That doesnât make any fucking sense. Itâs none of the stateâs business.
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LOL - Marriage is a âState Institution.â Youâre not married if you donât have a license from the state. If you think you are married, due to some âcommon lawâ (state law) you have to go to a (state court) to prove it. Marriage is the state. The real problem is that the state should not be acting without the consent of the people. Now here is the real problem. How fucked in the head is the population of Mo. to allow such a law to be placed on the books? Where are the protests?
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Well, I suppose one could consider two attorneys to be the spokespeople for folks on the receiving end of this situation. Because, gosh, the attorney in Texas has run into it only four times.
I wonât consider them appropriate spokespeople, but on you go, eh?
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But running from angry mobs is about the only way for me to get exercise lately. Not wanting to get stomped into a mud puddle is fantastic incentive to maintain a cardio workout. 
Anyway, in trying to stay on topic with this thread, it is difficult to wrap my head around the sheer absurdity and audacity of such laws in this day and age. Iâm old enough to remember quite well when women were treated as second-class citizens. I also remember when the shift started to change for the better. Took a little time, but women gradually advanced to pretty much âequalâ levels of men in politics, workplace supervisor positions, and other vital areas. So, somebody, please tell me what the actual HELL has been going on lately that seems to be trying to dismantle those advances? I simply do not understand how that is being allowed, especially considering there MUST BE some amount of women on these âcommitteesâ that are presenting/passing those types of Middle Ages laws. I seriously donât understand. (Well, okay, I DO understand, to a degree, how itâs happening. It just BOGGLES my mind, nonetheless.)
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Ditto. A simple example: job, function, and role titles up until a few decades ago used to be gendered in my language, and they still are strongly gendered in e.g. German. Examples:
- teacher: m. lĂŚrer, f. lĂŚrerinne, now: lĂŚrer; German m. Lehrer, f. Lehrerin
- sales clerk: m. ekspeditør, f. ekspeditrise, now: ekspeditør; German m. Verkäufer, f. Verkäuferin
- conductor (as in train conductor): m. konduktør, f. konduktrise, now: konduktør; donât know the German word for it
- police: m. politi/politimann, f. politikvinne, now: politi or politibetjent; German m. Polizist, f. Polizistin
- doctor: lege (here we didnât differentiate), but in German they have m. Arzt and f. Arztin
So from letting the gender of the person doing the job be an obligatory piece of information (whether it was relevant or not), it is now only being extra information in those cases where the gender is actually meaningful (in the context of e.g. handling teenage âgirl issuesâ at a school, it makes sense to add gender information about a teacher in the form of âmale/female teacherâ, since female teachers most likely are more sensitive and knowledgeable about those issues than a male teacher). Other than that, the teacherâs gender is irrelevant. So from having two gendered forms of such job titles, we have in practice moved to only one, of which the grammatically masculine version is the default. The old feminine versions seem largely old fashioned and obsolete now.
On the surface this might seem trivial (in the sense of âwhy bother?â), but it does actually influence the way people think. From letting the gender be an almost obligatory piece of (irrelevant) information in the description of a job, function or role, the shift means that now the job and the job description is the important information, and you add the gender only if that is actually relevant for the context.
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It has of course greatly improved, but political power and upper management positions are still largely in the hands of men. I doubt weâll elect a woman president in my lifetime and women CEOs are very much in the minority (8 percent of the CEOâs of the S&P 500). Womenâs rights are a shiny new thing and weâve seen just how fragile they are. It appears to me that the erosion of womenâs rights is almost always directly tied to religion and I find it terrifying and sickening.
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This cartoon is just so fucking sad. 2024 we are fighting the same fight after 40 long years since we first got sexual discrimination on the books in Aus.
We have not got the same problem here yet but the churchy influence from the US is infecting some of our politicians.
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Infecting your politicians like V.D.?
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Oh my, that just isnât the case. Take a few minutes and review some of the infoâŚhereâs an org that collects and presents it.
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Better than no attorneys.
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