The trinity in the Bible

What do athiests believe about the trinity in the bible? In Genesis, the Bible refers to God we. Many Christians believe that it shows the trinity. So, if the trinity was tought in the Old Testament, then is that evidence for Christianity?

OOPS! I just realized this post is in the wrong thread. It belongs in the one discussing ‘We’ I’m not going to move it or repost. I’m sure the OP can make the connection. He seems to be good at making connections.

Atheists are people who do not believe in God or gods. That means Biblical trinities, Hindu trinities, Egyptian trinities, Kabbalah trinities, Greek trinities, BabylonianTrinities, Vedic trinities, or the great Tao spiral of life trinity…(well, this last trinity does not involve a god so, it might be possible, but I don’t hear Atheists talking about it.) Do you think a trinity makes your religion special?

We? The first commandment also says 'You shall have no other gods before Me.” (Exodus 20:3) A full admission that there are other gods that your god does not want you worshiping. And who are those other gods? Well, you can find most of them in the Bible. \

Gods mentioned in the bible:

A

  • Adrammelech
  • Amun
  • Anat)
  • Ancient of Days
  • Anammelech
  • Asherah
  • Ashima
  • Astaroth
  • Astarte

B

  • Baal
  • Baal Berith
  • Baal Peor
  • Baal-zephon
  • Beelzebub
  • Bel
  • Belial
  • Bethel

D

  • Dagon
  • Dumuzid

E

  • El
  • El Roi
  • El Shaddai
  • Elohim
  • Elyon

G

  • Gad
  • God of Israel
  • Golden calf

H

  • Hauron

I

  • Inanna

J

  • Jah
    *Jehovah

K

  • Kamōš

M

  • Marduk
  • Melqart
  • Micah’s Idol
  • Milcom
  • Moloch
  • Mot

N

  • Nabu
  • Names of God in Judaism
  • Nehushtan
  • Nergal
  • Nibhaz
  • Ninurta
  • Nisroch

Q

  • Qos
  • Queen of Heaven

R

  • Remphan
  • Resheph
  • Rimmon

S

  • Shahar
  • Shapash
  • Succoth-benoth

T

Y

  • Yahweh]
  • Yam
  • Yarikh

And I am going to believe you have the ability to interpret ‘Gods Word,’ as written in a book that you cannot demonstrate is ‘Gods Word,’ is actually the word of God. Um… Because you are so smart? Because you talk to God? Because you had a revelation? What evidence do you have that any God ever uttered the phrase ’ ‘We?’

OOPS! I just realized this post is in the wrong thread. It belongs in the one discussing ‘We’ I’m not going to move it or repost. I’m sure the OP can make the connection. He seems to be good at making connections.

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My phrasing was off. I’m not a Christian. I’m just wondering what other non-believers believe about the trinity, and if it’s in the bible, and if it’s in the Old Testament.

If someone is a non-believer in the xtian god(s) then they don’t believe. You answered your question IN your question.

If you want to know if the xtian trinity is described in the bible, you have Google. I say this because it’s important that you begin to do your own research, a lot of it, not to just rely on something one person says.

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I can only speak for myself. I don’t “believe” in the claims that the bible or any book is holy. I couldn’t care less about the debates various bible believers have over whether their god is a trinity or not.

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In what sense, you will need to be more specific sorry, since atheists by definition don’t believe in any deity.

Claims in the bible and koran are no more evidence, than spells in the Harry Potter books are evidence for magic.

I tire of explaining what an argumentum ad populum fallacy is.

No obviously, since it is a claim, and claims are not evidence.

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I realized I wasn’t clear and misphrased a lot of things. This topic can be taken down.

Just try and clarify what you meant, we all sometimes make mistakes in our posts. To err is human etc etc… :innocent:

I realized I misphrased many things I’m very sorry. So basically do athiests think the bible teaches the trinity? I’m an Agnostic athiest myself, so I’m wondering what other athiests think.

And also if it’s taught in the Old Testament, would that prove Christianity? Many Christians use God referring to himself as “we” in Genesis as proof that the trinity is in the Old Testament.

Atheists don’t believe in the existence of gods. As an Atheist, I think the stories in the Bible are just silly fairy tales with no evidence supporting it.

As does the Quran with Allah and it is the same with the Bhagavad Gita about it’s gods. Any religious book you read will claim that it’s gods are real while not giving evidence for the existence of those gods.

The Bible was written by men and like all other religions, it does not evidence the existence of a deity. No amount of belief makes something a fact. Anyone who claims that it is, is using an Argumentum Ad Populum.

No, because its just written in a book and has no empirical, demonstrable evidence to prove any of its claims.

That’s like saying wizards being real is true because you read the Harry Potter books.

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FYI spoiler alert, sorry folks… no wizards either.

As an Atheist I don’t believe in the existence of deities or take religious mythology seriously. I’m not convinced by any of it. It’s not real to me. To me, religion is just more bullshit that people don’t need.

Most Christians assert that the ‘We’ referenced in Genisis, is the royal ‘We.’ That has been my experience.

The royal we , majestic plural (pluralis majestatis), or royal plural is the use of a plural pronoun (or corresponding plural-inflected verb forms) used by a single person who is a monarch or holds a high office to refer to themselves. A more general term for the use of a we , us , or our to refer to oneself is nosism .

Well I think it is just a subjective interpretation of unevidenced subjective archaic claims, if that makes sense.

No, since claims are not evidence.

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I think the reason why Christianity is so influential is because the religion prays on people’s weakness’. Those that are skeptical are often mentally manipulated by their friends and families into believing it. I think to influence those people, a majority of the religious will resort to mental tactics in order to place people struggling and not wanting to believe in the religion in a state of aporia and make that person feel very doubtful such as “are you sure you don’t want to believe in god? Hmmm? What do you say to god in the afterlife when you didn’t believe in him? Ooops?” and it’s often shit tactics like that, that will push people that were raised Christian into returning to the church to “do right”.

Why would you think it important what atheists think? There are some 30,000 Christian sects and they believe all sorts of shit. Some believe in a trinity and some do not. They are all arguing about whom the real Christians are. They all interpret the bible differently. It makes absolutely no difference at all what flavor of ice cream the theists are selling. We aren’t buying. Walking into any situation with a presupposition about the beliefs of any given Christian is a mistake.

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No, unless a topic is in violation of forum guidelines, it is not “taken down.”

We understand, @Rohan01, that someone can say things that are not clear. That’s ok. You can use the responses to it as a tool for learning how to phrase things better.

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The religion I was raised in used this reasoning. JWs don’t believe in the trinity.

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