The secret Christians aren’t telling you

Making grandiose and unevidenced claims is not a good basis for a debate.

Regarding your claims about “christianity” there are many sects and cults since the early 1st century that claim to have the “secret” some of them have been written about in these forums. I can provide a link if you would like to learn and maybe drop the unevidenced claims.

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They’re not connected?

I’m all set thanks.

non-sequitur :angry_face_with_horns:

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Claim 1, evidence 0.

Claim 2 evidence 0.

Claim 3, evidence…well ok this is more of a so what moment…

You need to look up atheist in a dictionary. It might help with that question.

claim 4, evidence 0

Bat shit crazy claim 5, evidence 0.

claim 6 evidence 0, and you don’t know what proof means.

I don’t believe in magic of any kind, so souls like deities are out.

claim 7 evidence 0.

Are they all crazy, or just the ones you’re using to troll here?

claim 8 evidence 0.

claim 9 evidence 0

Evidence, not proof.

:rofl: Evolution is an accepted scientific theory in good standing, try again. The first part is a an argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy.

Some people believe the world is flat others do not, I think even you with your tin foil hat, must grasp the beliefs are not in any way equally evidenced.

False equivalence, faith as in a strong trust in something or someone, is very different from religious faith, again a cursory read of any dictionary would help you make less stupid claims, though you’d need to make some effort here yourself of course.

False equivalence, scientific ideas have to be testable, falsifiable, and supported by sufficient, and sufficiently objective evidence before they are accepted, magic sky daddies are not supported by any objective evidence.

claim 10 evidence 0

claim 11 evidence 0, and that’s from less than half a dozen posts of yours….

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I was on the same bus as you in 1957. I may have lost a bit of situational awareness in the 70’s on occasion…but it all seemed real in the morning.

This dialogue is either trolling (fucking with us, to use the vernacular) or as free from facts as a fish is from a bicycle. Finding common ground here is like a Packer fan looking for love in Chicago…

I accept epistemic entitlement as a reality that’s never going away in my lifetime. Around here, if you’re going to claim the Moon is a balloon, you’re at least going to have to prove the existence of the string…

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Yes if he’s not troling than I would say he suffers from delusions of grandeur. He thinks reality is defined by and orbits around him. Everything in his world is centered on his perceived 1980 epiphany and must return to that. As Sheldon suggests, and I say this kindly: I hope he seeks help, and gets it.

Let me guess, people who think a man that lived 2000 years ago, rose from the dead, is in heaven at the right seat of the father waiting to judge the world and bring forth a new heaven and earth don’t need help? Lol

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More deflection…you either believe the bs you’re stinking this place up with, or you don’t. If you don’t you’re flat out trolling, FYI that’s been my bet from the start, if you do believe it you’re madder than a box of frogs…

You pays your money, and you takes your trolling / bat shit crazy choice…

The fact your ignored every objection to your disjointed rants, suggests troll, but I’ve been wrong before of course, and mistaken the craziness for trolling.

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You might try reading Stephen Meyer’s book, Darwin’s Doubt. Very interesting book for sure.

Why? What has this to do with the thread OP, and its author’s batshit crazy claims?

While you’re here, why are theists always so crypitc?

If you want to peddle equally crazy creationist claims maybe start a thread, but I don’t really see the point unless you have something worthy of debate, and creationist canards like Meyer’s are at odds with scientific facts, so there isn’t really much to discuss.

Did you bother to read this thread? Some guy with delusions of grandeur who thinks he’s god? Are you really going to step into this particular thread with a word from your sponsor?

That is likely a no.

I think that’s a yes, this could be the king of all non sequiturs.

No, I read the thread and found it interesting that anyone who identifies as a theist or Christian and disagrees with your comments is trolling or dimwitted. As you probably already know, Meyer’s book points back to the “cause” of everything, which caused Darwin such angst over everything.

Anyway, hadn’t posted anything for a while and thought I’d drop in to say hello. :blush:

Why would Christians have secrets in the first place.

Don’t think they should. I believe we should be able to openly discuss differences in beliefs without having to resort to denigrating the other person. It’s basically the ‘ole “agreeing to disagree” principle.

What then, in your opinion, should happen when a religious group decides to push laws that promote their tenets?

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Because without secrets employee retention becomes problematic…

This isn’t just anyone. Even you would have to admit he’s delusional, about his importance or identity, completely apart from his religious faith. That isn’t necessarily trolling or dimwitted, but it IS at the least very unwell, and that makes him a poor exemplar for Christianity and really for religious faith generally. He’s pretty much a poster boy for everything that can go wrong with religious faith if you’re sufficiently vulnerable.

As for whatever doubts Darwin had, they speak more to his time and the religious headwinds he was walking into than anything else. They don’t speak at all to his scientific observations, which, though they have been significantly refined since, have held up so well that evolution has joined gravity, electromagnetism, and physics as a vetted and proven theory (in the scientific sense, not the colloquial).

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Well, Cyber, I would probably say what you would say: they shouldn’t do it. But, as we know, the same happens when it’s the other side of the aisle–particularly when it comes to moral issues. So, the best thing is to try and do what’s right: particularly when it comes to helping those who are the “least of these” in society.

Let us also remember that the names that appear at the top of the 4 gospels are not the real authors of those gospels. Actually we do not know who the real authors are. We also need to remember that the gospels were written long after Jesus’ supposed “crucifixion” by about at least a couple hundred years. Since the Bible is so full of errors, discrepancies, lies, botched “science,” and historical phallacies, etc, it amazes me as to how anyone can see it as anything but myth NOT inspired by a “perfect God.”

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