The secret Christians aren’t telling you

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Concerning Christ, I’m certain that many followers secretly believe that “Jesus” resides on Earth and that, upon His death, all existence will end and begin again with his “rebirth.” Notice Jesus in quotes. The Christian conviction that He is alive in “heaven” now, poised to resurrect the dead and usher in a new Heaven and Earth speaks volumes, in my estimation. In the present day, a man exhibiting a messianic tendency is deemed mentally unsound; yet, for reasons “unknown,” Christians do not apply this judgment to Jesus. I surmise that Christianity’s magnitude renders it impervious to scrutiny, and individuals shy away from the prospect of being perceived as irrational for asserting that “Jesus” walks the Earth. Thus, there lies a collective refuge in attributing such divinity to the figure described in the sacred text provided by God.

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Are you asserting that “magnitude” or this “collective refuge” indicate its veracity?

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I am dubious that any deity exists, and the canonical gospels are anonymous second-hand hearsay (at best), written decades after the events they purport to describe.

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As you know, I think it all existence began in 1980 so this post is just a demonstrate what Christians secretly think. @Sheldon

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I’m asserting that Christians have a secret.

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I know no such thing, if I had to make aware call, I’d say you’re trolling, Occam’s razor…applied.

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I was a Christian until the early 1990s and I wasn’t hiding any such secret nor did I hear anyone else uttering it. The dogma was that Jesus resides in heaven at the right hand of the father and I never heard a whisper otherwise.

Just because you need or want to believe Christians secretly affirm your belief that Jesus resides on earth (and, I’m guessing, that you’re him), doesn’t mean that they do. You’re proposing a conspiracy of gargantuan proportions that would never hold together.

I was born in 1957 so no, reality didn’t begin in 1980.

Are you off your meds, or what?

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Not all Christians think it. Many do though.

Of course no one will admit it. Millions of people cheat on their spouse every day and they’ll die with that secret.

Am I Jesus? Haha absolutely not.

You don’t think God can create memories from 1957 onwards?

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This theory holding together isn’t based on people like you believing it. In fact, it’s stronger because of people like you.

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In which case how could you possibly know that they think it?

You forget that as an atheist I don’t think god can because god “isn’t” in the first place. What is your obsession with 1980, anyway?

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Ever listen to a preacher and how excited they get. Come on. It’s so obvious.

1980? Not obsessed. It’s simply the year that I appeared on earth. Actually, I was dreaming in my bed at the time.

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What evidence do you have of the existence of this heaven? Or that Jesus, or anyone or anything else for that matter, reside in it?

(BTW, if you want to appear pretentious or evasive by the overuse of words in quotes, your work is strong so far.)

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I am the proof. So I guess you’re out of luck as far as proof goes. Or you could search your soul and maybe find out for yourself.

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I guess those of us who can remember the 1970’s are liars.

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God created those memories. I know they do seem real though. I have a few memories before 1980 as well.

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Christianity was meant to introduce people to the truth, but sadly many leave before they get to understand the real truth.

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That is known as the Omphalos hypothesis. It is typically seen as a joke and a pretty funny one imo. If you are a serious about it, it stops being funny.

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Never heard of it. Cool. I have heard of YEC’s though. In regards to scientific “proof”, I’ll say this. Since science doesn’t know how all existence came to be, cosmic inflation, abiogenesis, and evolution doesn’t have a leg to stand on. At the end of the day, all one has is a belief. However hard you may try the only thing you have is faith in a science daddy. For some it’s Godditit. For others Sciencedidit! Haha.

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This is a misuse of how science actually works, and a mistaken accusation that science’s humility about its own limitations means it is unreliable.

I would suggest that your ability to discern reality from nonsense is abysmally lacking. I would also suggest your presence on a site that includes rational discussion now only serves as a bad example.

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You see, cosmic inflation, abiogenesis, and evolution are all connected. They’re even further connected to the beginning of all existence. :man_shrugging: Connected being the operative word here.