Yah…it can be hard for westerners or Europeans or maybe anyone outside the Middle East to differentiate between “cultural” Muslims and “religious” Muslims. The two are so intertwined because of “theocracies”.
Welcome, from sunny South Australia, where it’s currently 37 C (it’s summer) Hope you enjoy your stay here.
Just so.
I’d be very interested in your opinion about the hadith , with possibly a short explanation of their current role in Islam in Iran. Especially in the more conservative/ extreme sects and Madrasas.
With luck I should learn more about Islam and Iranian culture. EG How are women treated now? What modesty rules apply, if any? How are Bahai’s treated these days? What is the dominant language? The few Iranians I’ve met here spoke Farsi, but they were all Bahai’s.
Please feel free to ask anything you like about Australia. There are several Aussie members here, so together we should be able to answer most questions.
Is there such a thing as Islamic culture? It varies so widely from country to country and even significantly within countries. Islam, like Christianity, likes to pretend all Muslims are the same for statistics. But when you actually break down the beliefs and the levels of commitment to the mighty lord Allah, they are as diverse as the Christians.
Welcome .I am from South Africa a place known as the the rainbow nation my country may have a very high crime rate but I am grateful that South Africa has at least freedom of religion . South Africa has diverse religious population .I live in Gauteng which home to South Africa’s largest city Johannesburg .
Yes, Australia is a very beautiful country, and huge. About the same size as the contiguous United States, but with only 25 million people. Around 85% of us live in five mainland cities.
I think the size might stun you a bit. However, I suspect you would be more stunned, in a good way, to discover that Australia is one of the most secular nations earth. Like the US, our constitution (s116) forbids government to be involved in religion.
You mention women having to wear the hijab. What about burqa or niqab? Is Triple Talaq still practiced in Iran? With divorce, do any children automatically go with the father.
I’m asking these question because of my memories of the revolution and that evil old man Ruhollah Khomeini
And yet 56% of the current cabinet are all members of Hillsong…for non Aussies “cabinet” is the collection of Ministers that report to the "prime Minister’ who (in theory) reports to the actual Ruler and is called Governor who administers the government and ratifies its decisions,
HE or She reports to our hereditary owner of all Australian land, Monarch of the Saxe - Coburg- Gotha dynasty, The Queen of England.
Hillsong is a rabid “prosperity gospel” church and music empire based in Sydney. It is a mega church. They despise and mock the poor and afflicted as they are not blessed by the Lord with nice cars and million dollar mortgages and so cannot have been righteous. Far too many in the ruling coalition have been affected by its poisonous influence.
Please don’t scare the poor chap . Those are aberrations, although it’s a pity those twits are in office. For contrast, many Labor politicians are atheists.
Prosperity theology isn’t new. It had its origin in Calvinist predestination and was crucial in the growth of capitalism.
The idea goes like this: We don’t know for sure who is saved and who is not. However, it seems obvious that God would only bestow his largesse on the saved. Thus, being prosperous is a clear indication that one is among the saved. Conversely, the poor and downtrodden are obviously among the damned, and deserve no pity.
That attitude was the basis of the Victorian concept of ‘the deserving poor’. It remains the basis of welfare policies and personal charity in many countries, including Australia.
IF you haven’t read it, I recommend Max Weber’s seminal ‘The Protestant Ethic And The Spirit of Capitalism’
Even scarier with this mob’s recipe for considering a fair percentage of the Australian population “untersmench” (as illustrated with their treatment of refugees, many among them Iranians) their treatment of wage slaved “skilled visa” migrants and temporary slave labour in the fruit fields. Their belated and supine responses to Royal Commissions into Child abuse, (no meaningful action against the Catholic, JWS and other ministries) Their indolence and ostrich like behaviours at the uncovering (another Royal Commission) into the habits and malfeasance of the financial sector. I forecast that the same handwaving., limp wristed reaction to the final report into the Aged Care Crisis here…all to save their mates in the prosperous private sector.
It is NOT an aberration it is an abhorrence.
Now we have Fuehrer in waiting Dutton bulldozing the new Security Laws through Parliament that allow detention and questioning of 14 year olds without hindrance or presence of appropriate adults…that allows covert surveillance of any “citizen or resident of interest …to the security forces”
I would recommend to our Iranian friend that he keep his head down and wait for the revolution. Uses Tor over a VPN for web visiting and praises Allah in the approved fashion while keeping his fingers crossed and options open.
Yes - we in Canada share this with our Australian cousins. We get South Africans and Mexicans and India by-and-large (in Alberta) - other areas of Canada may (and probably is different)
Oh I just loved watching this. And the prosecutor was excellent. This in itself has served much to dispel the sanctimonious bullshit they flung at the Catholics for so long.
My understanding is since they won’t set-up a financial re-compensation ($$$$) for victims of their fucked up (ohhh, let’s watch) 2 witness policy, they may shortly be taxed. Her proposal includes fast-tracking the time it takes to process applicants and to cut Commonwealth funding and charitable deductions eligibility to institutions that do not sign up.
But a government spokesperson says Labor’s proposed amendment would break the Intergovernmental Agreement and risk states walking away from the scheme altogether.
“The Government is also investigating how to revoke tax concessions, however, taxation law is complex and we must ensure any changes do not have inadvertent consequences for institutions which do the right thing,” the spokesperson said.
Lol!!! Do the right thing… hahahahahaha!!! These are god’s servants! How can a secular government expect a religion to do the morally and ethically right thing? Especially for humans???
Exactly my point, Hillsong founder himself is an accused peadophile with his current CEO and Pastor (also his actual son)under fire (weakly and not really pursued by the media) for covering up even though he had a special report all to himself in the Royal Commission.
The same “christian” reps will procrastinate and allow “things to settle” in the hope that it will all go away and their entitlement will rule once more. As it should if you are white, middle aged and relatively or obscenely wealthy or fond of wearing a scarlet or black dress during the day at ‘work’.
There was once an anti atheist billboard in Johannesburg it was banned for being offensive .I am very grateful that I live in a free country .The only problem I have is the extremely high crime rate. I pity and feel great sorrow for those who are tortured and executed only for their beliefs .
Here is Johannesburg the largest city in my country .
I know about Ruhollah Khomeini he was part of Iranian Revolution he (Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini) was a monster he started the Iran Iraqi war .I learned about him from a website 25 most evil people in history he (Ruhollah Khomeini) sure ran Iran into the ground .The economy was ruined and a lot of innocent people were killed because of him .
@Daniel2 We need to hear the full story. It appears you have not heard of the US “Operation Ajax”, or the British “Operation Boot”.
To make a long story short, before 1953 Iran was a fledgling democracy attempting to claw it’s way back from the effects of WW2 and being controlled by the west. It’s leader at that time, democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh, was a reformist who annexed their oil industries, basically owned by the British.
The British MI6 and the CIA worked together to overthrow this democratically elected government and install a pro-western dictator.
That dictator, the Shah was brutal, with a secret police, and used torture and murder to enforce power.
Maybe one should ask the simple question why Iran hates the US and Britain, and overthrew the Shah.
I have (had) a family member who taught physics at the University of Tehran in the 1970’s. On the side, they reported the students who showed any disloyalty to the Shah to the secret police to be liquidated; as this was their real job at the university, since they were secretly (even to their own family at the time) in the CIA.
One in a long history where the US stuck its oar in to support corrupt dictators because they were anti communist, or removed a democratically elected communist. ( Salvador Allende in Chile)