You are telling me it’s 100% impossible for them all to lie or be deluded?
No, but it is very, very unlikely
Can you evidence a single occurrence of “something like that”?
Uh, hang on…do you realize that you are requesting an explanation for something unevidenced? From skeptics?
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This is an argument from personal incredulity fallacy, how you feel about these unevidenced anecdotal claims lends them no credence.
Nor does he need to, it is your claim they are telling the truth, you must demonstrate that, then all your work is before you to demonstrate that what they believe to be true, is in fact true.
Based on what, an argument from personal incredulity fallacy? you will need to do a lot better than that.
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Andrew
I am an/a: Theist
You either don’t know what religious means, or you don’t know what theist means, which is it?
I don’t believe in organized religion.
I believe in it because it is very unlikely for them to all coincidentally lie ir to all coincidentally falsely remember what they saw
Those are two very different claims, you need to be more careful and accurate when wording such assertions. If you’re a theist, then you’re religious, by definition.
I don’t care how you feel about the claims, this is an argument from personal incredulity fallacy, it is an irrational argument. If you think you can demonstrate the probability of duplicity then do so, but then, as I said in that post, all your work is still before you, as all you’re saying is that some (largely unknown) people allegedly saw something that you and they can’t explain, again, so what, is the only rational response?
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That’s certainly up to you. Understand that by believing this, you are accepting something as fact for which there is no testable evidence. If you think it’s acceptable to believe something for which there is no testable evidence, it means that anything anyone believes just because it makes sense to them must be accepted as truth as well.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha … ROFLMAO ----
Radios receive voices… That’s what they do. Anyone with a transmitter can, and the right frequency can transmit a voice onto your radio. That is why airplane pilots have you turn off your cell phones. That is why mobile trucks around airports circulate around homes to make sure all your Cable Connections are not interfering with air traffic control. (You can’t be real. Of all the possible things you could have possibly picked, this one is the stupidest of all.)
No one has to lie to hear a voice. Hearing a voice does not demonstrate anything supernatural.
I said ‘one thing.’ Stay focused. The fact that the police heard something. If in fact they heard anything at all. Is not evidence of anything supernatural. It is evidence of a voice coming over the phone and nothing more until you have evidence of something more. Do you have evidence that it was something more than a voice coming over the phone? (Stay focused now!)
What people? You don’t know them, you cannot name them, you have no idea how many, we have no idea of their veracity (if they exist) at all, yet because you watched a you tube channel we are meant to believe it?
You are holding an empty bag young fella. Give it a rest.
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It was walking home late at night. I stuck to the middle of the street instead of the sidewalks. He was waiting for me behind the bushes, (No lie.) (I was fucked up.)
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That’s a favorite trick of “ghost hunters”. They’ll pick up a bit of static and someone will convince everyone that it’s a word or phrase, then they all hear it.
The ears are easily tricked.
What ever words you concentrate on are the words you’ll hear and there are lots of other audio illusions if you care to search for them.
The article he eluded to also said they blew up a photo and saw a hazy face. There’s even a word for that: Pareidolia Humans are hard wired to see faces.
Extremely unconvincing evidence so far, though I would like to hear that recording of what the police heard if there is one and see that face picture. The story did say there was a recording where something was heard only when it was amplified, not sure if that’s what he’s talking about. My guess is that it’s a nothing burger or they’d be eager to share it.
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The more things change, the more they remain the same.
Have any of you guys heard of the Amityville Horror?
In Amityville–which is a wealthy, seaside town in Suffolk County, Long Island, and–incidentally–the name was the inspiration for the fictional Amity Island in “Jaws”–there is a haunted house that drove its new owners (Mr. and Mrs. Lutz plus 3 kids) out of the residence 28 days after they moved in. This supposedly happened in 1975.
There have been approximately 9 books and–literally–45 movies, including such Oscar contenders like “Amityville Vibrator”, “Amityville in Space”, and–my personal favorite–“Amityville Death Toilet” (among many other direct-to-video gems).
And here’s the kicker–it was a calculated hoax from the very beginning that was “dreamed up over many bottles of wine.” The attorney, the Lutzes, and a real-estate agent (who knew the history of the area) deliberately and cynically created a folk legend that fed on itself and snowballed over the past 5 decades . . . and the motive was (unsurprisingly) money.
I find the Amityville story to be very relevant in any discussion of sacred religious texts, as the Amityville story seems to show the same dynamics that could create the miracles of Jesus Christ, for example.
And this has happened in my lifetime, and I’ve followed the Amityville story since was 9 years old. My mom has even driven me past the house several times when I was a kid (we lived in Queens and in Long Island). Please see below for a few examples of what I’m talking about:
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I read the report. I’ll wait until the carbon dioxide testing comes back.
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I’m still waiting for one single claim to be verified as supernatural.
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Notice how the story is missing 1 key property; which will forever doom this to be just another ghost story: (presumably) it can’t be repeated. If you can’t repeat it; then there is no way to eliminate any number of possible explanations. If it can’t be repeated, it is bullshit imo.
The notion that this couldn’t be a result of gullibility and fraud is also kind of shocking to me; considering we live in a world full of habitual liars and credulous fools.
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I can repeat every activity described. Levitations, running into a wall, a voice over a radio, things going bump in the night, and more. I can duplicate all of them. (No supernatural needed.)
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Something
pronoun
- a thing that is unspecified or unknown.
Dear oh dear…
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I have repeated them, ta-dah, and loads of people saw it all, oh and some of them were policemen and people who would be astronomically unlikely to lie…since presenting claims seems to be sufficient, what do I win?
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It’s 2023.
The children were placed in foster homes 12 years ago.
End of story … unless there’s ghost/possession stories from the foster families of the kids walking up the walls.
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