Do you have their names?
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Oh I’m sorry. I didn’t know that some athiest so believe in ghosts. What I meant was a worldview where there isn’t anything supernatural, like God, ghosts or demons, and that’s a worldview that, correct me if I’m wrong, most athiests have.
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The Police officer was Gary Police Captain Charles Austin.
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You mentioned “ALL” these people/ Who were they do you know?
Thanks, so far we have a Police Captain…and?
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I addressed that earlier. “ So for example, how would both the cops hear the exact same thing at the exact same time? The same thing is for the others. How would multiple witnesses, outside of the family as well, see a boy being lifted up and launched into the wall by shadow figures AT THE SAME TIME? They would’ve all seen the exact same thing at the exact same time.”
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That’s the only name I know.
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What part of THOUGHT they saw did you miss?
They CLAIM they saw that, what hard evidence is there that it actually happened though? None.
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There is a report here, but whether it has any credibility I’ll leave it to you to decide: https://dam.tmz.com/document/da/o/2018/12/25/dafb10e721185a53a22c7148d6bc4784.pdf
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The fact that multiple people saw it says something. Really? All of them were deluded? If they lied, then that doesn’t make sense, and if they were deluded that doesn’t make sense. Why is it hard to accept they are telling the truth?
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So you come here totally unprepared with no evidence, just a story. I bet you believe in the Resurrection of the jesus figure as well…you have the same amount of evidence.
Waste of time lad.
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I’m not religious at all.
No evidence? If you can explain to me how all these people could’ve “thought” they saw or heard something, or how all these people could’ve coincidentally lied, then I will believe it’s a hoax.
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You have missed the concept of agnostic atheism vs gnostic atheism. Agnostic atheism is withholding belief until there is evidence for a god, the supernatural, ghosts, etc. Gnostic atheism would be claiming that 100% none of those exist.
I am an agnostic atheist, I have so far seen no convincing evidence for me to believe in any of those things. So I withhold belief in any of them.
Because there is no EVIDENCE they are telling the truth. It was 2011 and no one got anything on film? No dash cam, no audio recording of the police radio, no one caught a single shred of hard evidence and yet you believe it?
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Since it’s not a criminal case that’s all over news the cops wouldn’t have to release footage. It’s also not everyone’s instinct to pull out their phone or camera if something like this happens.
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Hmm…I am uncharacteristically speechless.
Are you saying that this type of event has occurred previously, and in fact, may be occurring right now?
Now you are just coming up with excuses for believing in something without evidence. If you want to believe in that, good for you.
I meant if something like that happens.
Ok so where is the evidence? all I saw was a raft of claims?
Four claims in fact, though one is so banal and vague I’m not sure why it’s even there.
I am not sure why the claim is in this collection of claims?
Claim, and for anecdotal subjective opinions as well, at what point will the evidence be presented?
Claim, and again for subjective anecdotal opinion, no evidence as yet though.
It? A raft of unevidenced anecdotal claims does not “prove” anything, on that we can agree.
Claim, still no evidence.
- You have not evidenced anyone made any kind of anecdotal claim.
- Anecdotal claims are weak “evidence” if you ever present any that is.
- A claim doesn’t need to be deliberately mendacious to be false.
- It is an objective fact that it people to lie, and exaggerate such claims all the time, it is for you to demonstrate that is not the case here.
- Sadly, it is an objective fact that police officers lie, and their subjective anecdotal opinion on magic and the supernatural is of not more objective value that anyone else, obviously.
Argument from personal incredulity fallacy.
More? You said you were “here to discuss evidence for the supernatural”, present some please, and I am not scouring links to find it for you.
That’s a claim, and no one need explain anything here, it is your assertion there is evidence for something supernatural, where is it please?
That’s not atheism, it is called materialism.
You’re wrong.
This is called an argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy, it is irrational to assert that any claim belief or idea gains credence from the lack of an alternative.
So you’ve researched this thoroughly then. 
No it doesn’t, that is abare appeal to numbers, it is called an argumentum ad populum fallacy.
No objective evidence at all, just a string of anecdotal claims.
I could care less what you believe, you brought your story here, the burden of proof is entirely yours, and again you are using an argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy.
Indeed, and when can we expect that evidence you claimed you had?
What about the part where I told you how it wouldn’t make sense for them all to be deluded or for them all to lie? Because of that, I believe it. You still haven’t explained how it makes sense for them all to coincidentally lie ir for them to all coincidentally Falsely remember what they saw or heard.