No! No! No! No trophy!!
Jackson5 misunderstood every fallacy on that list and he just assumed the arguments he presented didn’t attack anyone’s character, misrepresented atheist viewpoints, made hasty generalisations, made further assumptions that his premises were true, completely misunderstood the post hoc, false dichotomy, ad ignoratum, and burden of proof reversal fallacies, made a non-sequitur attack on the non-sequitur fallacy and completely rolled, totalled and wrote off the bandwagon fallacy.
No trophy for Jackson5, but rather a broom to clean up this huge mess.
I wear clothes ever since that time I got arrested going shopping naked. I certainly wasn’t popular then.
What? A trophy for Cog and an inspiration for White to…Tin!!! The camera!!! I’ll empty the closet! Don’t forget the film this time!!!
Nah, fuck it. I didn’t make the thank you list, the A-listers just trample all over the little people and parrots yet again, I’ll just call the SPCA instead, what’s the address again?
How is your god doing today? Did he enjoy the coffee and donuts I sent him? They are very special coffee and donuts, the sign above the coffee shop obviously makes them for god.
I like how he responded to your post and not mine, where I clearly explained the various definitions of faith and how theists use the world and how his/her use was simply an equivocation fallacy. Hey White? Are you an easy target?
@Evathyst … still waiting for a reply. Even say, just the 10 Commandments - are they “god breathed” or inspired? Are they apart of “All scripture” (2 Tim 3:16-17)
I equally gave the instance of Adam & Eve, of having a wrong faith. The negative aspect of that action led to death, misery, destruction, suffering, loss, opening up a Pandora box et cetera.
@David_Killens, a tad point of correction here please, religion and faith might be linked but they aren’t intrinsically the same thing. Religion, as a matter of fact and/or on one hand, is a pursuit, obligation, commitment or interest, followed with great devotion and/or regularity while faith, on the other hand, is a complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
People commit themselves to football, to shopping, to hockey games, to fashion, to cricket, to helping others in need, to et cetera, to 1001 other religion. James 1:27, tells of the religion that is true, pure and the sort that God finds no flaws in nor fault with
@David_Killens, fyi and with all due respect, blind faith, would be in the same category as adventurism and/or foolhardiness. It is having unwise confidence, it is misplaced trust, it is belief without employing true and full understanding
I reiterate @David_Killens to please beware of those whose thought, hope and/or faith are based on their own ideas, feeling(s) and on what they think is right when it is not based on God’s word. Case in point, Genesis 3:6 earlier given
You are free and within your rights to use the bible as wallpaper. If using it as toilet paper is your thing. Happy days. Fyi, I travel a lot and go all over the place, but I live in the Bible. The Bible is my home. It is my reference point, it is the Manufacturer’s manual book. All I have in offer to you is nothing less than a clear cut cogent and rational discussion. Misunderstanding the sun and/or not believing in the sun, doesnt preventing the sun from always rising in the east and setting in the west
I haven’t contradicted myself. If you hadn’t known, well, FAITH, with all the letters written in upper case like that, is whats called " capitalisation " or " capitalised ", however, Faith, with the first letter in the word, written in upper case and the rest letters, in lower case, is called “title case”
@boomer47, you aren’t telling me something I dont already know. I am aware that the Bible for political, theology, hidden agenda, ulterior motive, personal gain/interest/advantage, ignorance, doctrinal error et cetera has been wilfully altered and mistranslated
I am well familiar Dr Bart Erhrman’s works and even have a copy of " Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why " in my e-library. I have on more than one occasion had a divergent interpretation to the way he has interpreted some issues.
@Whitefire13, I quoted a Biblical definition of what faith is so that you know what my source is. Even if you dont believe in the law of gravity, it doesnt mean, it wouldn’t affect you if you should down down a high rise building without some much of a parachute on
I never used Christian, so what are you on about
All scripture is talking about Old Testament
Why would I want to attack you? If you typed " So your god is transactional? Do you realize that by making such an assertion, you completely destroy the argument that your god is a loving god? " and I merely borrowed you comment by exchanging you in, since you too daily transact in faith, and then ask, if you trying to say you aren’t a loving person, is that an attack, hmm?
If you had believed in the Bible anyway, I would have brought your attention to the ninth commandment of the Ten Commandments (i.e. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour), but since its the the Ten Commandments of Logic, is your preference, then let it be known that you fell foul of the first, second and fourth commandment
Your existence is a starting point, objectively supported fact or evidence that God exists
"So faith comes from what is heard,
and what is heard comes through the message about Christ. "
Romans 10:17
" Now without faith it is impossible to please God,
for the one who draws near to Him must believe that He exists
and rewards those who seek Him. "
Hebrews 11:6
Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance. The truth about God, will always be the truth even if you and/or no one believes it.
I have been in a helicopter, in a storm, and looked out one window to see the opposite horizon. We were practically inverted. It was fun, but for me not a great concern. I knew the aircraft thoroughly, and the level of competence of the pilots. It was not 'faith", but an understanding of the laws of physics, the level of competence of the pilots, and the capabilities of the aircraft.
My trust was not misplaced, those were the very same pilots who managed to set the rear end of their helicopter on the small landing pad of a Russian trawler, flying backwards, in a storm. it was an emergency evacuation of a man with acute appendicitis.
Nice try, you adorwable widdle kitty-kitty. But you are not getting another participation trophy just because you AGAIN demonstrate your lack of reading comprehension skills. Besides, Cog got the last one and likely has already filled it with poo.
@Evathyst@Whitefire13, I quoted a Biblical definition of what faith is so that you know what my source is.
Actually - faith is defined by the bible in Hebrews 11:1 (posted 134 to Tin) “ Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.”
@EvathystEven if you dont believe in the law of gravity, it doesnt mean, it wouldn’t affect you if you should down down a high rise building without some much of a parachute on
Why wouldn’t I have confidence in the Law of Gravity? That’s a dumb analogy. There is demonstrable evidence of its existence and it’s explanation or description by science is commonly accepted.
Whitefire13:
Exactly which Christian (they tell me different things) or which church in Canada (somehow excluding all the other holy books written by men who heard god). DEC 2019
@EvathystI never used Christian, so what are you on about
Ahhh, now the “games” begin, eh? See what “faith” gets you when you extend it towards a fellow man, LOL. Yup, you aren’t saying you are Christian or that you aren’t Christian or that you even believe the bible to be god inspired OR anything, right? My reply in response to your bible faith definition to me of: ”is heard comes through the message about Christ. ". MY BAD for “assuming” you linked faith to Christ or Christians (tsk, tsk, tsk)
Whitefire13:
You shouldn’t have left out VERSE 15 which says taught from infancy (indoctrination - no different then Islamic children or Hutterite kids on colony). BUT anyway… the rest reads:
“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.“
Does the Old Testament get included with ALL Scripture??? If not, then it’s not all scripture is it?
@EvathystAll scripture is talking about Old Testament
Do you believe the bible to be Gods Word? ARE YOU a Christian? DO YOU believe Jesus is God?
I wouldn’t want to “assume” anything moving forward…
I posted that picture. It is not religious but based on our understanding on how to conduct a productive exchange of opinions.
It is a secular guideline created by humans to be used by humans. Please do not be confused by the use of “thou”, it is just an archaic second-person singular pronoun in English. it does not carry any religious significance, as much as the use of “the” in the bible.
AND I’m thinking that there are things we can “do” with it…add a little to the “Golden Shower” …
