No!!! LOL 
. Be as cranky as you want with me! I laughed when I saw your post…
Okey dokey.
What kind of car is Jellybean? I keep picturing a VW bug…
Oh, that’s just my name for it. ( my last car was a Camry) The car is a spiffo Mazda 2 Neo hatch. Smoky blue paint work with tiny silver flecks in it. Only a 1500 cc motor, but it has enough power to move when it has to. Doesn’t feel like a small car to drive.Significantly smaller than a VW bug and isn’t afraid of trucks as beetles tend to be.
Considering the Neo is the cheapest car Mazda makes, I remain impressed after 14 months and a bit under 5000 km.
The latest offering of War of the Worlds, a European modern day setting with Gabriel Byrne, (free to view on SBS On Demand, Cranky) faithfully includes H.G,Wells’ disturbing agricultural intention of the aliens. It would be something Bright Raven might have commented on if he could find his way here to our new forum site.
Frankly I am opposed to the SETI project. If they are out there I’d prefer sneaking up on the buggers and spying on them rather than giving them our home address at least until we establish that they might prefer poetry and macrame to plunder and massacre.
Timely message for aliens : Be safe, stay home.
I am guessing you are joking and/or not really worried.
In case you or another reader is not:
Stop humanizing a possible intelligent alien species that would have to be capable of faster than light travel or okay with working on time spans of thousands or millions of years.
It is very difficult to “imagine” an intelligent species with far greater intelligence than our own. Of course we humanize aliens, we never met any, and we have no way to really compare other than to ourselves.
Since we have no better alternative, let’s use human history and humans to do a rough comparison.
There is a (lightly/precarious inhabited) island called Tristan da Cunha, with the nearest landfall 1750 miles (2800 KM) from Africa. Now let’s say the people that live there are 2000 years behind the 2020 human in technology/culture/etc
We modern humans from the main continents could visit this island. In many ways, to the culture that lives there that is 2000 years behind, we would be very alien like.
Now we could visit, just out of idle curiosity, checking out a human culture that is 2000 years behind. Heck these days we could have drones circle overhead filming everything. Streaming the footage to a satellite. The local population would never even be aware of the presence, and even if they managed to spot a drone in the sky, they would have little reason to think it was some advanced being surveilling them.
But why would we modern humans go and conquer said island? There is nothing special about the island other then how remote it is and the fact it is inhabited by humans that are 2000 years behind in technology. The amount of fuel, and other resources to quickly and cleanly invade the island would be far, FAR! more than the resources we could ever hope to collect from said island. And why would we anyways? There is other places we can extract resources in much greater numbers and far more easily then invading Tristan da Cunha. The inhabitants of Tristan da Cunha pose zero threat to the rest of the humans. And they most likely never will, most likely increasingly posing less threat as time goes on.
This is very roughly analogous to an advanced alien race visiting/interacting/conquering earth. There simply is no motive. An advanced race capable of traversing the stars simply would not be interested in earth and its inhabitants, except maybe out of pure curiosity. And this is humanizing to the 21st century these aliens. It is far more likely these aliens would have vastly different motives then we humans would. For every planet inhabited by intelligent species, there is probably billions that do not, probably even trillions. If it was about resources the alien race would go for the best return on investment (if they were human like.) They would be nearby targeted planets to whatever resources they need.
We already looked around for our closest neighbors, we can even look at the planets at our closest neighbors. There is zero sign of intelligent life anywhere in our “back yard” of anything within 1000 light years of earth.
Go beyond that, and time/distance issues become so large that eithir the alien race has to be capable of much faster than speed of light travel, further worsening the motive problem, (Compare the 2020 humans to maybe chimps living on some very remote island.) Or they are okay with vast units of time, meaning aliens showing up during our lifetimes, or even that of our grandchildren become vanishing small just due to the timescales involved.
My fear of some sort of alien invasion/encounter is down there with the likelihood that the rainbow farting unicorn god actually exist and cares about human affairs.
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If intelligent life is as rare as I suspect, then space -going races would avoid another. All parties would know there is a lot of room, enough to share. I am of the firm opinion that there are many planets possessing the elements and conditions of Earth, absent intelligent life. It would be far easier to exploit those planets for minerals, gasses, and anything else. What is easier, to wage a war to destroy humanity, or just mine a planet devoid of intelligent life?
Movies warp our opinions. To countenance that a hostile alien race would land on our planet and wage person-to-person warfare is just stupid. A far easier tactic would be to stand off outside the asteroid belt, and push some huge asteroids in the proper direction and force, so that one day, a few thousand massive meteors, each larger than the one that triggered the extinction of the dinosaurs, all arrive at Earth at the same time. That would wipe out all life, while not destroying any resources.
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Agree - NO fuckin aliens need earth for GOLD (sorry Stichin’ fans)
OMG 
David!!! Don’t give “them” any big, bright ideas!!!
They may or may not have intelligence - perhaps capability (evolved) …shit again that we can’t necessarily imagine or that is foreign to us or goes against our ideas of “common sense”.
The moons around Saturn 
and Jupiter are still candidates and are being explored for “life”
AND we’ve already (humans) contributed to the idea of panspermia …these little cuties are on the moon 
thanks to us.
I love 
tardigrades - Rest In Peace little buggers!
WOW 
. I got a huge, bold lettering that I did not expect!!! Came in to edit it and can’t find WTF made it do that - cool 
. NO intention behind what appears like emphasis.
Emotionally worried? No not really. I’m not able to get my head around the notion of aliens actually landing in terms of probability; I think it’s remote. I can easily imagine us as a species, in the persons of our idiot politicians, inviting unknown aliens (hence the name) to land.
Plus, from pure self interest; I’m 72 years old. With some luck I might last another 10 years with my marbles intact. It suits me to think alien contact is very remote within that time frame. This is a fantasy. Realistically, I have no way of knowing; could be within the next 10 minutes or never.
Have always thought SETI is asinine because it makes the most absurd, unfounded assumption about aliens. We are not in a position to make assumptions about such beings, such as their morality/ ethics/altruism. (if any). The ends justify the means is a perfectly rational world view. As is quid pro quo. IMO each of those positions is the way the world actually works.
What would they want? Is it likely we possess some rare element they might night need and can’t get anywhere else,and with far less effort?.I don’t know enough about the distribution of elements throughout the universe to make educated comment.
Intuitively, it seems unlikely, but I don’t really trust intuition, it’s unreliable in my experience…
Seems to me people are expecting something like the Asgard in Stargate SGI , or even the Vulcans .
IMO they could just as easily be like the Cardassians or even the Borg .Although I think we’d probably be too primitive for the Borg.
What could they possibly want?
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Below a nifty, longer radio drama of one of my favourite Twilight Zone episodes ,“To Serve Man”
I loved that episode!
These guys are pretty much safe…
UNTIL we discover some precious resource.
Water is abundant in the cosmos…as are other elements (that we know of) - diamonds rain down on the gassy giants …astroids would be worth trillions if they could be captured and mined…[ According to NASA, the minerals that lie in the belt of asteroids between Mars and Jupiter hold wealth equivalent to a staggering $100 billion for every person on Earth.]
Hahahahaha what if “intelligent” sentient life was the valuable resource - not as a food source. Usually “value” increases with “rarity” (but to drive “them” off, we’d play them clips of “Florida man” and “People of Walmart”)
Edited to add: OR have sailingswine talk at them… if they’re hostile, he’s the “ambassador”
Worried? No, like Cranky, not really. I have faith in the Drake equation which from memory makes provision for contemporaneous levels of scientific and technological abilities between planetary civilisations. The final number of alien communities we could expect RSVPs after SETI is so low it is, as you suggest, enough to keep it all down there along with, but slightly higher than, Cosmic Blue Bunnies and all the usual suspect gods.
Our love affair with extra terrestrials has a long history. Several ancient Greek and Roman poets waxed lyrical about beings on ‘the other spheres’. One I recall wrote a story about people from the sun warring people from the moon for possession.
Worried? Maybe. It could be an idea to pelt asteroids at a planet to kill off the unwanted inhabitants, like David helpfully suggested galactic imperialists, but, on reflection, destroying an environment with catastrophes might not be a clever solution. How about borrowing an idea from Anaxagoras, Berzelius, Helmholtz, Arrhenius and more recently, Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinghe and invoke a deliberate panspermia by infecting the asteroids first with a deadly infectious virus…oh wait did I type that out loud?..hope no aliens are reading…lets just keep that to yourselves, ok? Then again it might be too late. From memory Fred and Chandra speculated the Spanish flu epidemic was a result of the Tunguska meteor strike in Siberia in 1910(?). Viruses it seems make great interstellar travellers and cosmologists like Hawking even suggested they could well be responsible for spreading of life around the Universe.
Anyway, worried? Dont be. I can reveal that Cranky and I are the Grumpy Old Men in Black, protesting very stridently on behalf of Earth against the unwanted arrival of infectious micro-organism scum from the Universe. Please stare at your screens while I put these sunglasses on…
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“Tardigrades, which live on every continent on Earth, are also (maybe) living on the moon, following the crash of a lunar lander carrying thousands of the microscopic water bears.”
I suppose you could have let us know that ‘we’ were the ones who put them there and that they were probably all dead by now. LOL
I read the post and thought someone might have found something.
Are you crawling out of bed dumbass???[quote=“Whitefire13, post:89, topic:96”]
I love tardigrades - Rest In Peace little buggers!
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AND the article (if your closed banana brain 
actually ALLOWED you to see past your own bias) clearly says in the headline “we put them there”.
For fucks sake … your right brain is like a theist’s left…
LOL: IN FACT - Yes! I have just rolled out of bed. It is 9:11 AM… okay… I did take a shower first and should be awake by now. I am only half way through my first cup of morning coffee and I am thinking more about work than my posts. “CAUGHT ME!”
Whitefire13Atheist
I still thought they had found life on the moon, so I clicked the link and rushed to read the article. Poor little buggers probably all imploded.
I’m waking up now… I promise to do better. Be nice to me… I did write you a song after all.
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Jesus fuckin’Christ- here I was hoping you were just getting me riled up for some angry sex …
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Damn, Dave, where did you get that pic of Cog? Those glasses almost make him look intelligent. 
David_KillensAtheist
Damn! If I didn’t already have a steady flame… *Winking in White’s
direction * I would be all over that!
Okay, you caught me. I cross dress and even perform at Finocchio’s when I am in town. I can sing just like Liza Minnelli.
