Yeah…Im not doing the Christian DNA science bullshit. So I’m not gonna bother reading it because I asked you to give physical evidence and you’re refusing.
You calling me a hypocrite is bullshit. In fact that’s a lie. I used scripture to make a point if you even bothered to actually read my post. The difference between us is that you’re a Christian who believes the Bible is evidence. I don’t. That’s not being hypocritical.
I asked you to demonstrate with objective evidence for the existence of a deity.
Or are you just going to keep deflecting with your usual bullshit?
I’m not answering or addressing anymore of your crap until you give physical and real evidence for your claims.
Again. What objective and empirical evidence can you demonstrate for the existence of any deity?
DNA is physical evidence. Idc if you don’t think so. You’re doing what most atheists do when they don’t know how to answer something, they just ignore it and say I’m stupid.
I’m really not here to discuss the author of certain books. My point remains the same. There are other verses in the Bible such as Matthew 25:30 which reffer to hell as “darkness.”
DNA is evidence of Evolution and what defines a species. There’s nothing in DNA that ever implied a creator. So no, that’s not physical evidence of a deity. This is just another case of You just making up shit to appeal to your religious indoctrination.
Then why introduce as them an argument for the existence for your god of choice? As has been stated by others your ancient texts are a series of claims, of which you seem ignorant of their authorship, veracity or foundation.
If you are only here to preach, not discuss in any meaningful way, then just say so, then you can go
away and wallow in your all too obvious ignorance.
DNA shows microevolution; DNA has so much information in it that natural selection can pick out the best information in it. That doesn’t explain how that information got there.
Maybe you should actually read what I send. DNA is perfect instructions for how cells build proteins, and instructions don’t write themselves. It would have to build an entire language system, create and define words, write out long paragraphs of writing, create a system to code/decode DNA, and be able to carry out the instructions by comlete chance.
I never presented that as evidence for God. I was answering SOMEONE ELSE’S theological question they asked me.
@Cr2187 you keep saying in your posts that there’s evidence for “god”. But when asked to supply hard evidence that would hold up in a court of law; you just offer wishful thinking, anecdotal ideas, creationist theories, and opinions.
All of that while stating that Atheists don’t want to believe and just ignore your religion which you’ve been told over and over that’s not it.
Funny thing though. I debated with a Muslim on Quora that used your arguments about Allah. You talk just like him.
so why present a well known forgery as an answer? You used it as “evidence” for your version of a hell…
Are you saying it is NOT evidence? (no, it is not it is a claim) or are you saying you did not know that 2 Peter is a very late construction reflecting orthodox thought of the time?
You seem to be presenting easily debunked regurgitated thought as original. Be aware that there are specialists in many of the fields that you are grazing here.
@MrDawn Ha you did it again. I gave evidence, and you ignored it and called me stupid.
And yes muslims and Christians have similar arguments for God; it’s the theological area where we disagree.
@Old_man_shouts_at_cl
No I didn’t know that cause that’s not really my area, and that doesn’t really change much for me because a. I don’t think it’s a forgery even if the author isn’t Peter and b. it doesn’t affect what I’m saying about God. So congrats you’re smarter than me in some areas; that really doesn’t change anything for my argument, and I don’t really care.
well, yes it DOES change what you are “saying about your godofchoice”.
So far I have caught you in several historical inaccuracies or where you state outright falsehoods. Now you say that your ignorance of these matters and your falsehoods “doesn’t affect what I’m saying about God.”
Yes, it does affect what you are saying about your godofchoice. It also says an awful lot about your character if you think that presenting falsified information can in any way persuade any critical thinker to your point of view.
Perhaps doing some proper research on the subject matter you wish to discuss and creating a new topic for each would quench what is your obvious search for knowledge.
I read what you said. That is a God of the Gaps argument. I disagree. You’re saying DNA is evidence of “God” because you don’t know where it came from. Anytime “science” doesn’t explain where something originated from, you just hamfist your “god” right into it and call it “evidence” and bitch when myself or other Atheists shake our heads no. You’re not giving empirical facts. You’re arguing from a postulate.
But I could say the same to you; you reject God as an option and insert chance processes even though you have no evidence for it. I say mine makes more sense because in every scientific case you will ever see, any sort of information, organization, or intelligence always comes from an intelligent source.
But I could say the same to you: You reject Allah, Vishnu, Kali, Odin, Zeus as options and insert chance process even though you have no evidence for any of it.
Now you’re whining. You need to go back to first base on DNA and Evolution. Watch the child learning channel about it. Learn something.
So what? You used a known FORGERY as evidence and now want to introduce an anonymous, plagiarized text to say " it says the same thing, almost, so I am right?"
Oh please the Miller-Urey experiment produced organic compounds not organized information to build the specific proteins needed for life.
Even if you had all the chemicals needed for a single cell, they are never going to organize themselves into life and even if they were in the perfect position, would they just pop alive?
An example would be if you put one single cell in a test tube with the perfect living conditions for a cell and poked it so that all the contents of the cell spilled into the water around it. You’ve killed the cell, but wait a minute, you have all the necessary components for life right there is the perfect conditions for a cell to live. Why doesn’t the cell just pop back to life if it has everything it needs? Because it’s life force is gone. Even if all the right chemicals and structures are already there (which realistically would never happen), life will never arise from chemicals alone.
You watched the beginning of the video and then stopped to bitch about it. Keep watching, that’s not what the entire video is about.
At 5:48 the guy states that “Life began the moment molecules of information started to reproduce and evolve by natural selection”. At 5:36 he states that “Life is a product of evolution”
No where in that video did they say a “god” did it. Because saying a “god” did it is based on a claimed belief (religion) and not based on “empirical facts”.
Actually, it is strong evidence against a powerful and knowledgeable god, and creation. RNA came first, then DNA. If your god was so smart, why did she mess around with RNA and not go straight to DNA?
If the creation myth was true, DNA would have been in on the first floor. It was not.
