If I'm wrong ! are you right

Ok….something to ponder….if I’m wrong believing in God, and His Son Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour all these years, and I die tomorrow…What did I lose ? Answer is NOTHING. …..If those of you that do not believe in God or His Son Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour die tomorrow, and you were wrong…what did you lose ? EVERYTHING !

What does this everything consist of?

The issue with your rhetorical question means you also imply that you wasted a life time on a religion that never proved the existence of the god you worshipped when you could have spent your time pursuing other interests. Just saying… :person_shrugging:

You guys can never be arsed to read through the site for the dozens of past discussions of Pascal’s Wager so that you could at least come up with an original take on it. Instead you come here breathlessly thinking you have some sort of “gotcha” we haven’t thought of when in fact we have already rejected it – with receipts – over and over.

Has it never occurred to you that most of us have thought about this for decades already? That those of us that left Christian fundamentalism particularly did so for quite good and considered reasons, and not just on some sort of lark?

Nah, you’d rather believe what you have been told about unbelievers without having had a single substantive and respectful conversation with even one of them.

Well, just saying…spent my time with the God that I worship, and He has shown to me multiple, multiple times in many ways that He does love me, and has answered more prayers than I can count without a calculator….Just saying

Which god is this that you’re referring to?

He? He who? Which imaginary construct are you referring to?

The real and true living God of the universe that made u and me..that God

For the record, preaching is not debating. What evidence do you have for the existence of this deity?

1 Like

There is a way that seems right unto a man…but the end there of is destruction…and professing themselves to be WISE…became fools………..wide is the road that leads to destruction and many there be that follow it, narrow is the way that leads to life and few there be that enter.

I guess after that again I will be banned for a period of time or not allowed to reply….when someone disagrees with the unbeliever, we do not want u on here Spence…so be it if so

You can preach, but it doesn’t make for a compelling debate. Either your post will be called out for it or people will ignore it completely. Some of us live in the bible belt and work with Christians. You’re gonna have to do better than that.

1 Like

The evidence I have is that I have believed and given my heart to the Lord Jesus Christ…….He has shown me in multiple ways that He does not only exist, but has more than answered the things I have asked Him for ……for many years

Eternal life with or without God…it’s that simple

I’m not here to deconvert Christians. But if you believe in deities, good for you I guess. But if you’re wanting to convert people on here, you’re going to have to do better than that. I need compelling scientific evidence for the existence for any god. A holy book written by men and a religious movement isn’t compelling enough. Do you have anything else to bring to the table other than preaching and religious theory?

You keep bringing up Pascals wager… it all boils down to “Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate these 2 chances. If you gain, you gain all. If you lose you lose nothing.

This is a quote by Stephen F Roberts: “I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

1 Like

For starters…open your eyes…do u really think u came here knowing absolutely nothing and living here and experienced the many things u have during this life time and u will leave here with nothing ? What have u experienced in this life? Love, hate, hunger, sadness, happiness, closeness, denied…….satan is the god of this world as the Bible says he is..he wants you to not acknowledge God the Father and deny His existence…he has you in his realm of unbelievers……the lost

Ironic.

People procreate and have babies. Animals procreate and have babies. I see no evidence that an all powerful immortal or a race of powerful immortals created anything or the world and it’s contents. Religious theory promotes creationism and watchmaker theories.

There’s your problem. You’re arguing from a religious stand point. Someone fed you this religion and treated it as a fact. Someone over in the Middle East was fed Islam and they see it as a fact. Someone over in India was fed Hinduism and they see it as a fact.

Have you ever sat down and started questioning anything about your religion or the fact that you’ve never seen or actually talked to your god?

This is also an argument made by many other religions that support creationism and god claims.

Yeah, I can’t count the number of people who have told me this; yet they all believe in a different god. You guys can’t all be correct, at most only one of you can be correct. Yet you guys could easily all be wrong. I’m going to continue to believe you are as full of shit as everyone else.

3 Likes

Are you able to demonstrate that eternal life is possible?
Which god? The one of the bible?