I hate my christian mom

Lord should capitalized!

Make me…or pray to a deity to make me? :wink:

You are trolling my “friend”, I saw it from the very first, but wanted to be sure, you have no objective evidence any deity exists or is even possible, and your endless unevidenced claims are a lame attempt to proselytise, but since you’re holding an empty bag, your snake oil has no value.

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Or both of course, I have found over quite some time, that your perception is unerringly accurate, if I may so.

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I hold no grudges. I’ve been called much worse than that. I hope you all will seek Jesus Christ the Lord. May you all have a peaceful rest of your day.

Why would you, all anyone here has done is ask you to justify any of your numerous and unevidenced claims.

Simple name calling is nothing, compared to condemning someone for who they are, until you grasp this fact, I fear you are doomed to continue to indulge the worst bigotry of your religious indoctrination. Go back to your first post, and then seek out and honestly answer every question asked of you, I dare you.

I hope you like cheese on toast.

If you stop preaching at us, maybe we will, in the meantime you could try engaging in honest debate, but this will necessarily require you subject all beliefs to critical objective scrutiny. Are you capable of that level of objective honesty?

The evidence thus far does not suggest this is the case.

You can leave, and carry on blindly believing what you’ve been taught, and find comforting, or you can start to question all claims, and see where the evidence leads, it’s your choice, and that’s all the choice we may have, that is ultimately what it probably means to be human.

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FYI…the poster known as davidc.guthrie has been put in time-out. He has been warned that, if he chooses to return when his time-out expires, he needs to respond to questions posed about the content of his posts, not just make continued assertions or preach, or he will be permanently banned.

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To be fair, he was given countless opportunity to honestly engage in debate. No one is demanding anything beyond that after all, and in a debate forum at that.

Maybe we should all go to his church, and endlessly preach at him that his beliefs are wrong, I wonder how that would go down.

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His relentless attempts to insert himself where he clearly wasn’t wanted seem to be a hall mark of christianity. The OP came here looking for support and acceptance and davidc insisted on trying to give the opposite. Somehow they’ve conflated screaming “leave me the f*** alone” in their face as a cry for their dubious help.

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i’ve had a similar experience with my mom too. i was called all kinds of slurs when i came out trans myself, but when my dad lost his mind and literally threatened to kill me (threatened to stab me with scissors), she told him to calm down.

but they did both agree to disown me and that i should leave town.

so i did. it’s probably for the best. i live life with no parents for years now.

Can I ask, for clarities sake. Have those things actually happened to you niece/nephew?

It is awful when family disowns you.

My parents often threatened to disown me when I was younger because of my autism.

“If you’re smart enough to get a degree, then you’re smart enough to figure out how to not be autistic,” or “People with autism have a focused interest in one subject, so if you made normalcy your special interest, then you would be normal. This is why you choose to be autistic, and accomodating your autism is the same thing as enabling an alcoholic.”

My sister has disowned me for the same reasons, and I’ve actually flourished enourmously since my family discarded me.

When family is sufficiently toxic, it’s the only way forward.

Properly supporting and parenting an autistic child (particularly if there are co-morbidities, which there usually are) can ask more of a parent than they probably bargained for, and society gives people so many “outs” and excuses around it should they decide not to. On the other side of things, my wife and I have struggled with the balance between “enabling” our son and ensuring he’s properly cared for, and believe me we got advice that was all over the place on this topic.

Ultimately we just had to know ourselves – neither of us has it within ourselves to pull off the “tough love” parenting style, despite to whatever extent it may sometimes “work”. But what we gradually are discovering is that as we affirm our son’s true worth largely by ensuring he has the supports he needs, he is actually making some real progress and there’s at least an even chance he’ll be able to handle his own affairs reliably when we’re gone. If not, we have trustees set up to keep him out of trouble. The point being that there’s no incompatibility between challenging a child to grow and not demanding that they do it according to our timetable and priorities and in the service of our comfort.

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That seems very enlightened, so yur son is quite fortunate to you as his parent.

It cuts both ways. He is my stepson, and when my biological son died he came to me and said, “I know you have lost a son, but you’ll always have me”. And he’s been true to his word. Of course he’s harder on his Mom because, I guess, she’s Mom. But I have never known a human with better integrity. He can be superficially lacking in the empathy department and yet his sense of right and wrong are absolutely solid, if at times a bit un-nuanced. He cannot bear to kill a stink bug. He cooks us gourmet meals. He has all sorts of ways to show his love. We are just as fortunate to have him.

You just have to take the time to “see” and appreciate what’s there, even if it’s not from your version of Central Casting.

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Family dynamics are some of the most difficult to handle. I know the feeling. Most people in my family think of me less since announcing my antitheism. I don’t try to argue with them and stand by my own convictions. It’s hard, but I support your decision to be and remain independent. You certainly have an understanding friend here!

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