God is Not Incompatibile With a Rational Explanation of Creation of Man

@Andromeda But…but…it’s out of context!!! :sweat_smile: :rofl: :sweat_smile: :rofl:

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I assume here that you’re mocking me. Allow me to explain:
Context is very important when considering major arguments, such as the origin of mankind. It’s similar to taking a politician’s speech out of context, as you can make assumptions easily without the rest, which are often incorrect. Context adds both credibility and information to an argument.

If I were a theist of the Abrahamic persuation, I would probably use this information to argue that this proves beyond any doubt that religion is true, because how else could the pantheons be so similar? The reason would obviously be that they’re all aspect of the same god, the Abrahamic god. And the different names and religious traditions are just due to the confusion after the Tower of Babel, or something. (Have anyone actually used that kind of argument in here?)

It’s this kind of similarities that indicate to me (without any further evidence, as a working hypothesis) that all gods and pantheons are just projections of human behaviour into the so-called spirit world and the creator gods, in an attempt to understand what cannot be explained from the available knowledge.

That’s not how I interpret it. On the contrary, I interpret BigNeeravs comment to mock the theist, by complaining that you and everyone else are taking things out of context.

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Ah this makes much more sense. I haven’t read the whole thread yet so far so I don’t know the entire converstaion. I saw an opportunity and I took it, perhaps a little too naïve of me.

That is my impression too. Early man attempted to describe how things happened, and ascribed gods for the causes. Rain can be fickle, natural disasters can be severe, and those qualities are also evident in man.

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@Get_off_my_lawn Yes…I was making fun of theists, as that is the common complaint against atheists, which is hypocritical, since they accuse us doing the same thing. Projection, anyone?

@Andromeda Poor unfortunate souls, as Ursala, from “The Little Mermaid”, would call them.

@Get_off_my_lawn I once again, had that same realization: that all the different Gods and Goddesses, of all the theistic traditions, are different views of one and the same God. In other words, God is one, but is viewed differently buy those of different religions. This explains the anthropomorphic characteristics, shared by all the human-made Gods and Goddesses of theism.

That does not, however, validate the belief in God, by any means…definitely not for me, at least.

See - I would argue that the many deities AND they are viewed separately have “commonality” from one degree to another (and some similar stories) just because humans made-them-up. Humans!!! Silly silly humans. It’s tough to think of some attribute or power that is original (and stretched in the imagination).

I come to know three things:

  1. The realization, that God has the same physical, mental, emotional and behavioral traits and characteristics, including ego and personality, as well as all the various the faults, lapses, imperfections and weaknesses, that we human beings have, which depend on the culture in which such a God or Gods were invented

  2. God (or Gods) were created as an explanation for the universe and all that exists in it, including us humans, in terms of its origin and nature.

  3. Theists have yet to prove the literal/physical existence of any God or Gods that they believe in.

From this, I came to the conclusion that whatever God or Gods exist, are merely a figment of human imagination - a fantasy of the human mind, and do not actual, literally/physically exist, out here in cold hard reality. Then came the subsequent realization that God is nothing more than a psychological crutch for those, who still are unable to accept and acknowledge the Godless reality that we live in.

I genuinely feel sorry for theists. Hopefully, one day, they can break the spell and be free.

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@Andromeda This is where the theists fail badly, in terms of proving the existence and reality of whatever God or Gods that they believe in, in a failed attempt to convert us.

Can you prove the existence of these things? Before I believe you at all, I need to see evidence that they exist. You know…the usual or standard atheist bar…yada yada ya. LMAO! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I have taken a different path. I got my vaccine against the supernatural mainly through the study of natural sciences, where I began to see how Nature is connected in a way that makes any gods or supernatural explanations superfluous. But the final triggers to leave religion completely behind was through 1) reading about weird cults like Scientology and 2) reading about evolution and to listen to and debate with creationists.

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@Whitefire13 Precisely! And that goes with what I said, which you quoted. I, as well as you and others here, have yet to see any evidence of any literal/physical existence of any God or Gods, out here in the real world. Therefore, to me, the religious or spiritual belief in any God or Gods, makes no sense at all.

@Get_off_my_lawn Makes sense. You came to the same conclusion, but in a different manner, which I respect. The first two were spontaneous realizations that I had, and the second one was from reading and participation in atheist forums and message boards like this one. From there, came the realization that God (or Gods) are nothing more than a psychological crutch. Spiritual teachers nowadays, talk about “accepting what is”, and so, the belief in some sort of Higher Power or Supreme Being, which they call “God”, would be contrary to that, since God’s existence has yet to be proven as a certain fact.

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If you’re going to use sporting analogies, I’m fond of ‘game, set and match’ because it’s broader .

‘Can’t take a trick’ isn’t bad either.****

In the long run, I prefer ‘’—is a willfully ignorant dropkick" or something less subtle.

*** I thought this was a bridge term. (I don’t play Bridge) Turns out it isn’t. It’s just Aussie slang, meaning consistently unsuccessful.

Tennis legend, John McEnroe, would like to have a word about that:

Yeah, he was tool alright. But he made tennis more popular. Seems to have attracted the same kind of person who goes to motor race hoping to see a fatality.

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I imagine Job would agree, and the Amalekites. Not to mention the entire population allegedly drown in a global flood.

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