Does the belief in God make better People?

Another bare and evidenced claim, it is also a lie. The troll metre needle just lurched towards troll.

OK I’m calling this one, @ CoreyMDavis is a troll, I also see that his account is now suspended.

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I have atheists and religious people both who are very nice and kind. I don’t think the shallow “niceness “ is the deeper issue. I think that most religious people keep us primitive and therefore is “NOT KIND”. But not all religions hold us back. It’s the Abrahamic Religions specifically that hinder progress. It’s the dogma and patriarchy that try to resist change. I believe we are “part of God”, therefore we should strive to make the world better and progressive.

It’s surprisingly (or maybe not so surprisingly) hard to tell a religious zealot from a troll or the genuinely mentally ill. I suppose it’s possible to be all three or any combination thereof.

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And we should do it by reverting to our pre-christian pagan roots. You go brother, you certainly got all the answers. — Who left the frigging window open?

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@Socialdarwin

All I see is another of your unevidenced diatribes, making vapid claims that your superstion is better than all the rest.

You’ve been here a while now, why don’t you piss or get off the pot? Offer something tangible in the way of objective evidence, otherwise your woo woo is the same as all the rest.

Go further brother - FURTHER I SAY!!!

The pagans fucked up the pre-pagan world…

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WE? There is no ‘we’ in Atheism, except for not believing in gods.

I don’t happen to share your opinion. I don’t measure ‘better’ in terms of material progress. I measure it in terms of social justice and material equity. IMO there is no such thing as equality in people or systems.

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Christians are the most intolerant,know it all,self righteous people I have ever ran into! What is even worse are people who have had substance abuse problems, drinking, gambling, addictions, etc. and are out to drag anybody they can find to drag them down the religious rabbit hole with them as they replace their addiction with church and religion! However, I have also ran into arrogant atheists, but at least they made more sense in discussions than a christian would.

Welcome to Atheist Republic GODHATESUSALL.

Unfortunately, since I am an atheist, I am not convinced a god exists. Therefore an imaginary concept can not hate me.

I suggest you do some research on addiction, an addict, be it alcohol or drugs or sex or gambling, drag those close to them down into their messed up world. IMO it is not dependent on religion, but the inner workings of an addict.

What in the fuck kind of a rant is this???
Can anyone connect the dots for me…

  1. Christians are intolerant (the most intolerant).
  2. People who have substance abuse problems are worse than Christians.
  3. There are also arrogant atheists who make more sense in discussions than Christians.

A true example of propositional logic in action if ever I have seen one.

Thank you for sharing your vapid and inane opinion.

Are you a complete idiot monkey brains? People that have had substance abuse problems are worse when they become christians as they want to pull other’s down their rabbit hole of faith and christianity! That is what I meant. You already proved the arrogant atheist part for me, but made no sense. I am an agnostic,and that seems to have rattled your monkey brain! You need to calm down bonzo!

Thanks for the welcome! I was not trying to disparage addicts. Just addicts who go to religion and then try to pull other’s into their new world. I have this belief. I cannot prove that a god exists or does not. However if one does, he Hates Us All. So now the chimp will come after me for that,LOL!

But don’t many theists attempt to pull us into their world, substance abuse or not? Are not some theists pure jerks because they believe they have god on their side?

Are you attempting to get me involved in this disagreement between yourself and another? That is between you and that other person. Not me.

Or do you just want to make sure I am aware of the possibly fractious interaction you eagerly anticipate?

No, not at all. I can handle my own fights. I just replied to the wrong box. I have poor vision and have to type with one finger. Sorry, My bad!

Sincerely, sorry about the poor vision.

May I assume you haven’t done a lot of/any travel to non Christian countries?

Christians are only ordinary people. Their human weaknesses existed long before Christianity or any other organised religions.

Interesting sweeping generalisation. Care to share the evidence on which you’ve based that claim?

PS it’s "— have run into

PPS Forgot to add this before; I suspect it must be very comfortable being able to judge others so easily and in such numbers. :thinking:

Strictly speaking, if you’re an agnostic then it is a contradiction to make assertions about any deity, even a hypothetical assertion.

I think that needs a qualifying statement, like many Christians I’ve ran (sic) into, or generally speaking the Christians I’ve encountered etc… As it reads to me like an absolute.

Parenthetically I’ve met Christians where you’d not know they were Christian, unless you asked them. They never proffered any views on their beliefs unless solicited for them.

Welcome to AR…

Another idiotic remark from someone who does not understand the concept of 'Agnostic." I love these inane claims… “People with substance abuse problems become worse when they become Christian.” Ha ha ha ha ha. Thanks for the teriffic insight, ohhhh wannabeee woowoobbeee waaann woookkooobeee.

Monkey brain? You obviously mean “Bonzo” and not “Bozo.” “Bozo” was a clown. You would have known this if you had the intelligence to work a TV. Damn, you should at least try to get one thing right. If you are going to insult someone, at least try to get the insult to fit the situation.

Like, if I were going to insult you I might point out that a name like GODHATESUSALL: is fucking retarded for someone who professes to be an Agnostic. How in the fuck would you know Godhatesusall if you are as you say, an agnostic. What you are is ignorant. Ignorant of the concepts you are attempting to use on the site. Why not go and educate yourself and then come back in 7 to 10 years. Which god are you referencing? Did you just think you were being witty to call yourself Agnostic and then begin asserting things about God?

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Oh damnit Sheldon! I Should have known you would beat me to the punch! If only I had read a bit further. I did make my comment prior to reading yours.

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