Christian experiencer report

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There is a connection, Jesus was hidden in Egypt and Moses raised in Egyptian court with Abraham and Joseph also being there. Judaism came out of Egypt. Egypt had the age of Taurus thus the bull theme, then Moses had age of Aries with the ram theme then obviously Jesus with fish theme for age of pisces and now we’re entering age of Aquarius, the messianic era. Bible says after this, devil will be released after 1000 years which is age of Capricorn (goat serpent which is what Satan is) which is the land and sea beast

666 would be associated with Horus because the sum of the magick square of the sun is 666. Also the number of gold bars king Solomon received was 666 which would’ve been stacked into a pyramid vase 36 making capstone #666. Osiris was a serpent that had the goat staff (goat serpent is Satan).

Saint Augustine wrote that what we now call Christianity has been with mankind since the beginning.

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Christianity was founded by Constantine and The First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. I wouldn’t say that is the beginning of time.

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The other gods aren’t just a story as neither are many creatures from folklore.

The sun parallels the overcoming/victory experience I had which is also called 3 days in the heart of the earth and sign of Jonah (as in the whale for 3 days) when on December 22nd each year, the sun stops moving on the horizon 1 degree for 3 days then on Dec 25th starts moving the other direction 1 degree each sunrise like it has died and resurrected also like Jesus dying and resurrecting for 3 days. You might say Jesus resurrecting never happened even though there are modern accounts of people coming back from the dead but I have given my testimony about my experience with 3 day overcoming that is probably ancient and predating Christianity. Probably even before Jonah and the whale metaphor for that in Old Testament.

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He said “what we now call Christianity” thus the similarities. The dying and resurrecting God is a common motif across world religions, the stories built into the cosmos itself with the zodiac and sun stop moving for 3 days. In occult tradition it is said as above so below, as without so within.

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Except non believers have had the God experience in NDE with bliss in heaven and I’ve also heard stories of something like hell. Yours honestly sounds like a dream but maybe that could be a version of hell if you were in fear. An NDE is not about what you expect, it is beyond your control.

I listened to one Jewish kid that went through a life review with rabbi and others watching and showing how much light and darkness he had merited and that lasted a long time then he was sent back and he was dead only a brief time.

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I flew to the moon last night, in my under pants, no one can see me, because I can cloak myself in spiritual faith.

Note my claim is as well evidenced as yours.

Note it is as meaningless as yours.

Note it is as unfalsifiable as yours.

Note, I imagine you are as dubious of my claim as I am of yours.

Verified? If you mean there is a mathematical proof of a deity, and I am extremely dubious, then please don’t hide behind appeals to authority fallacies, present it, and explain why the global mathematical and scientific community seem to have missed this news.

Lesbian porn…

Nope, try again, bare claims are meaningless. Again i flew to the moon unaided, did you not read my post?

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Sorry, I don’t believe in Christian Mythology or any mythology for that matter. They are stories. If your gods were real, they’d speak for themselves and rule over humanity. They’re as silent as the grave outside of the holy books without a lick of evidence to prove they were ever real.

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Or that a deity is even possible.

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  1. If you have “yar” in your name you are the banana king of mars.
  2. I have yar in my name.
  3. Therefore: I’m the banana king of mars!

You can verity the validity of mine on a computer too. It has the same problem that Godel’s proof has; it’s valid, but not sound.

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He wasn’t brain dead. A dying brain being starved of oxygen is not dead. Once the brain stem has permanently stopped functioning, there’s no way of reversing it, and the heart will eventually stop beating, even if a ventilator continues to be used. Cardiac arrest is not brain death, and FYI, all experiences are near death, they cannot be otherwise, some are just nearer than others.

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Yes, verified on a computer…Gödel’s formal (logic based not an argument in English) proof of God is on Wikipedia:

You’re mocking simulation theory? It is taken seriously by physicists and philosophers. I was reading an atheist physicist book (Like Dawkins or Sagan but I think this one specifically might have been Lawrence krauss) he said if simulation theory were true then anything is possible including God coming from outside the simulation (as it could have many layers).

You could have astrally travelled to the moon for all I know, which you can try for yourself. The cia has published their study on it when they did Monroe institute hemisync where they astral project using binaural beats and they encountered reptilians (I’ve seen them too). I know someone that had NDE and was on the moon with gray aliens before being rescued by God.

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He had meningitis of the brain then was put in a coma. He is a neurosurgeon and says brain dead because he should not have been able to have these experiences because his neofrontal cortex was not working.

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Wow! The woo-woo is strong with you!

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Because I think astral projection is real? I can’t do it (I get stuck at vibration stage) but you can try it to verify yourself or you can ask the countless people that do it all the time. Reddit has an AP sub and they talk about meeting up with each other in the astral realm. Also look up the cia research “Monroe institute hemisync” if you doubt it

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You want me to believe accounts from a site like Reddit? The same site posting record numbers of SpongeBob memes? Yea, okay buddy.

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Argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy. No claim assertion or belief gains any credence because of a lack of contrary evidence. Otherwise invisisble mermaids would be real, right?

Very very wrong, subjective anecdotal testimony alone is the poorest evidence there is, and yes we can say it is untrustworthy.

Ironic no?

Harry Potter specifically describes magic, your point would be?

I also don’t believe this bare unevidenced claim.

Wow, you do know what refraction is right? How about airborne moisture? Good grief this is embarrassing.

Argumentum ad populum fallacy.

Nothing at all, why would I make assumptions based on unevidenced anecdotal claims?

Sheep’s blood is magic if you have faith, oh look I can make shit up as well.

Seek urgent professional help if you genuinely believe that. I’m not saying this to derogate your claim either, seriously.

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Yes I was an atheist for 15 years. It caused a severe depression in me[/quote]

Yes many theists simply can’t cope with reality, so they lean on the crutch of religious faith.

Nope.

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You understand the difference between valid and sound yes? You also seem to have ignored my question, unsurprisingly.

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Take that up with the article that tried to debunk that neurosurgeon NDE. Did you even read the article so you understand the context of why I said that?

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That a diety is possible? Simulation theory makes it possible. You might be surprised what tech can do even if you ignore the spirit and psy aspects.

But once you’ve seen the spirit world you know it is possible. Just because you can’t sense it doesn’t mean others can’t. Just like if you can’t astral project, it doesn’t mean others can’t.

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Nope, I’m mocking your wild sweeping and unevidenced assumptions.

I am dubious, but this gets a big so what anyway, why do I care what you assert unevidenced about an alleged atheists, allegedly claiming in an alleged book?

Oh dear, you seem to have missed the point, and not being able to disprove a claim doesn’t necessarily make it true, to claim otherwise is an argumentum ad ignorantiam fallacy.

I doubt it, but I could care less anyway, claims are not objective evidence.

Ok again, if you are in earnest then I beseech you to seek help, seriously. This level of delusion is not healthy.

I imagined I was superman once, it was a cool dream.

So not brain dead then, as you falsely claimed.

So not brain dead then, and I would expect a qualified neurosurgeon to know the difference between a coma and brain dead, at the very least.

You claimed you saw a rainbow when it was not raining, again do you know what refraction is? Only your claim suggests you don’t.

Nope.

A text book circular reasoning fallacy there.

Straw man fallacy of course, but this doesn’t mean they can either, demonstrate sufficient objective evidence or I will withhold belief.

Another straw man, and again I am dubious as all you’re offering is a string of subjective unevidenced claims, and dubious conclusions.

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