I follow this pastor. He deconstructs the toxic paganism that has infiltrated Christianity.
Those dealing with toxic Fundies may want to look into him.
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The rapture is a NEW Chriatian teaching. It was around but not dogma until 1830. It was not a central teaching of the Christian faith. Currently, Christian scholars are attempting to show that âChristians always believed in the rapture,â but the evidence is not there. Here is one such justification:
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The Rapture
A Popular but False Doctrine
Credit for its origin generally goes to John Nelson Darby, a 19th-century theologian. 1830
Scofield picks it up
âDarbyâs pre-tribulational view of the rapture was then picked up by a man named C.I. Scofield, who taught the view in the footnotes of his Scofield Reference Bible, which was widely distributed in England and America. Many Protestants who read the Scofield Reference Bible uncritically accepted what its footnotes said and adopted the [rapture doctrine], even though no Christian had heard of it in the previous 1800 years of Church historyâ (âCatholic Answers,â http://www.catholic.com/library/Rapture.asp).
I could care less about any of this. I donât debate it. I just know there is contention. It is a made up story and part of the evolution of the Chriatian faith.
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Rapture was pushed by crackpots like Jack Coe, an early American faith healer, who died of polio. Polio! A preventable disease eradicated in over 90% of the world. Claimed god could heal everything, but died at 38 after becoming a vegetable from brain swelling because he didnât believe in doctors. Itâs ALL traumatizing. Just the concept of living forever mortified me as a child.
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I must confess that I am surprised by the contents of this thread.
I was under the impression that the Rapture was an ancient belief that came from The Book of Revelations.
Wow⌠Couple of glaring items here that caught my attention. First of all, the thread titleâŚ
âBad Theology Traumaizes Childrenâ: Uh, hate to be the one to state the obvious, but you could have left out the word âBadâ. Speaking from personal experience, theology in general (good, bad, or otherwise) traumatizes children. Then many grow up to be traumatized adults. It is all straight-up brainwashing, plain and simple. And the adverse effects are considerably long-term, to say the least. Fear, doubt, indecision, and the mental conflict between the indoctrination and rational logic are just the tip of the iceberg. So, basically, saying, âBad theology,â is rather redundant, in my opinion. Moving right alongâŚ
For starters, please define what you mean by âtoxic paganism.â Beyond that, though, I find that statement truly hilarious, considering how many Pagan practices Christianity purposely adopted for its own use over the centuries of its development. And, I could be wrong here, but I venture a guess it was NOT the âtoxic paganismâ that led âgoodâ God-fearing Christians to slaughter countless Pagans and witches âin the name of The Lord.â The irony here is off the charts. 
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Well, 3in1 breath, you are not alone. Sorta like
âViolent assault or ânegative side effectsââŚ
Well of course they were just not âtrue ChristiansââŚand the Pagans were not true PagansâŚand I am not a true philatelistâŚ
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Edit could you lick this for me?
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Nope, and trust me youâre not alone. Most Christians I have met have no idea of that either. Mennonite and Mennonite offshoots donât all read or accept Revelation as even a part of the Bible. It isnât studied in detail if at all. Yet in a lot of their churches they peddled rapture as an accepted fact.
I never knew this growing up, until I read revelation for myself. I couldnât figure out where they came up with this shit. Wasnât till decades later I figured out that was some Evangelical crossover bullshit.
Religions really are just mental viruses. Mutant strains of combined religions splintering into pockets of individualist bastardized festering of mental disease IMO.
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Heh, want to know something else that is weird (compared to Christian movies/etc)? The word anti-Christ does not appear in the Book of Revelations.
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I didnât know this either . . . although I always believed that The Beast was supposed to be the anti-Christ.
I guess I had better things to do than make a detailed, schloarly study of The Bible.
Iâm surprised at the interest.
I define âtoxic paganismâ as the belief that - I belong to the magic group that means I get to kill you.
The other pagans I donât care what they believe.
Yes, I knew that all the Rapture stuff was a late 1800âs mostly American thing. I wasnât aware that it had crossed the oceans that much. Or was that only Americans replying?
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Curious⌠Ummm⌠By your definition, exactly how does Christianity/Catholicism (along with Islam, of course) NOT fall into the âtoxicâ category? Hmmm⌠
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Why do you think I left? I got tired of the continual death threats from the clergy.
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Which reminds meâŚ
Itâs fascinating to me how those who claim to worship and believe in that particular all-powerful and all-knowing god always seem to think he needs help with punishing those who disobey. Along those same lines, it states fairly clearly in the bible (and it is definitely TAUGHT by many sects) that no man can ever know the mind if God. YET⌠Iâve lost track of how many times Iâve heard a faithful believer say, âI know God wants you to do blah-blah-blahâŚâ But ask that same person why god would allow such horrible atrocities, and he/she will say, âWell, we just donât know what God thinks. He works in mysterious ways.â The inconsistent cognitive disconnect is truly amazing sometimes.
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Itâs the Texas sharpshooter fallacy to some degree, count the hits and dismiss it when itâs a swing and a miss.
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Utter nonsense. I went to a Catholic school, and whilst there were a few nuns around, theology wasnt mentioned much, nor were we indoctrinated or brainwashed. You are just making a sweeping generalisation.
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That statement seems a bit forced, sure you werenât traumatized? You seem to be identifying with your captors to me. Again itâs ok paddington this is a safe space to share your traumas.
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I have no traumas with my Catholic schooling, it was a very happy time for me.
Thanks for asking.
Best wishes,
Padster
HahahahahahahâŚholy crap, there were a few nuns around ? Just hanging around I supposeâŚNo indoctrination or brainwashing?
Riiight probably just very occasionally referred to, who was it againâŚâŚNikola Tesla?
No waitâŚAlbert Schweitzer?âŚChristiaan Huygens?âŚno, that other guyâŚhis name escapes me right nowâŚIâll eventually think of it thoughâŚ
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Edit whatâs that old book over there??
I, too, was sent to Catholic schools even tho my parents were not theists. They figured Iâd get a better education. In some respects, I did but it was tough being a secular Jew in a Catholic school in the 60âs.
Theology was a regular, daily class. Church attendance during the school year was frequent. Both those things are indoctrination and indoctrination is brainwashing.
By saying you werenât indoctrination, are you saying that the Catholic school you attended did not have catechism class?
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Hmmmm⌠⌠For some odd reason, the term âStockholm Syndromeâ comes to mind.
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