Atheist Epistemology

I never got a look at the damn thing, but it makes a hell of a swoooooooshhhhing sound before everything goes black.

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Well, Whitefire seems a practical woman. Whatever it’s made of I’m sure it’s quite functional :slight_smile: .

He’s like the Michelangelo of irony. Or maybe it’s just a total lack of self awareness. It’s as if he doesn’t read his own post.

Believing in a god is the same as believing in Bigfoot or UFO’S. You need to prove that they exist, we don’t need to prove that they don’t exist. This guys arrogance is off the charts.

Well we have logic, and we have observation. I’ve found those sufficient for navigating life, the universe, and everything.

If you rule out observation because you think the evidence of the senses is suspect, then I guess we’re reduced to solipism, but to be fair you should also rule out the voice of god speaking in your head, because that’s also just you.

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That which comports with reality is true.

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Is that from your bio?

Banned for being too combative? Fair play guys, that’s a very polite euphemism.

Is anyone anticipating contrition on his return? A lonely keyboard warrior, on a quest to share his erudition with the poor heathens.

Sadly like so many theists he appears to be holding an empty bag. Though as usual this fact doesn’t seem to have dented his confidence in his superstitious wares at all. Like an undeterred snake oil salesman or witch doctor standing over the lifeless body of his latest patient, and declaring without a hint of irony…“well, there’s still so much we don’t know”.

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@mr.macabre You forgot the Loch Ness Monster and Yeti, though I can argue that Yeti exists, because we have all seen him on that popular ride down in Walt Disney World - Expedition Everest. :stuck_out_tongue:

How do you know that the evidence exists, that it is objective, that it is true, how to evaluate it?

This is called begging the question. How do you know when a claim comports with reality?

How do you know your senses and reason are valid?

This will take care of 'claims comporting with reality as well."

“You don’t have a choice.”

You live in this world and share that which is real. That which is not demonstrable is not worth worrying about. My reason is valid as it carries with it facts, evidence and predictive power. It has a sound basis in logic or fact and is reasonable or cogent.

Now how do you tell if your senses and reason are valid?

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He can contemplate :thinking: these very tough (lol) questions for about a year without vomiting :face_vomiting: on the forum.

What a particularly stupid response, even for you. I ask you…

What objective evidence can you demonstrate for any deity or deities?

I made no claims about evidence. Can you not read a simple sentence?

It is supported by sufficient objective evidence.

They have 2 of them at disneyland’s matterhorn attraction. I’ve seen them both.

Yair. Been to Loch Ness, didn’t once see Nessie. She’s very good for tourism. I bought a tin of shortbread with her portrait on it.

If confronted by one who is deeply superstitious and gullible, usually here, I explain:

I do not believe in Gods, an afterlife, the soul, angels, demons, heaven ,hell, ghosts, mediums, fortune telling, the paranormal, alien visitations, dragons, mountain trolls and fairies at the bottom of my garden. (this is not an exhaustive list)

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The full article linked below is worth reading if you’re not familiar.

@boomer47 Don’t forget about Disney fairies like Tinker Bell from “Peter Pan”, or "Cinderella or the three from the movie “Sleeping Beauty”. All imaginary, but great for the little kids…until they grow up.

Ah…what a great movie. Brings back so many good memories of my childhood. Oh well.

Bibbity Bobbity Boom, baby!

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The ‘fairy tales’ of The Brothers Grimm are mainly sanitised folk tales, far more gruesome than than the Disneyesque pap children are fed.

The term ‘fairy tale’ can have much darker meanings.

Me? I cried when Bambi’s mum got killed. Also hid under a chair during much of a Lassie movie. How old was I? Oh about 30 I guess, why do you ask?

It’s an odd evolutionary trait, that makes us attentive parents, when we see a child in distress we find it unbearable. Even a cartoon child.

I put Dumbo on for the grandchildren, and busied myself elsewhere during the sad bits, but being sure to ask if they were ok.

When Dumbo cries outside the locked wagon for his mother, and she comforts him through the bars, I made sure I had something to see to in another room.

…but yeah the films bring back memories, and watching the grandchildren stare enraptured while Judy Garland sings somewhere over the rainbow from a film made the year my parents were born was pretty special…