All things Bright and Beautiful.........Oh really?

There was a jolly hymn that I sang along with in junior school assembly. It went: “All things bright and beautiful, the Lord God made them all……”. There is an infinite number of such beautiful examples of Lord God’s creations out there in the natural world of course. But let us just take just one example: the malaria parasite which gets injected into humans and other animals by a bite from a female mosquito. It then travels in the animal’s blood stream to the liver where they grow and divide in liver cells for several days, after which the infected liver cells burst and release thousands of new parasites into the blood stream. Other non-parasitized female mosquitos then tend to prefer a blood meal from a suffering, sweating fevered human host rather than other non-fevered humans that may be around, so that the tiny amount of blood these mosquitoes ingest will harbor the new parasites to repeat the whole cycle . Such an amazingly ingenious parasite must be considered as a beautiful example of the Lord God’s beautiful creations, which incidentally has caused the deaths of millions and millions of people, mostly infants.

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And do not forget verse 3 ( now bowdlerised out of the Episcopal versions) "
The rich man in his castle,
The poor man at his gate,
God made them, high or lowly,
And ordered their estate."

When I was in Primary (Elementary) school that was the first time I got into serious trouble. I would not, just NOT sing that bloody verse.

Age six, I recognised the hypocrisy of societal religious pressures. Still turns my stomach.

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When I think of all things bright and beautiful, I think of glorious life giving sunlight and the source of all life on the planet. Without the sun, there would be no wheat in our fields, no apples in our orchards, no corn to feed out cows, no meat on our tables, no early aging, cataracts, or flesh-eating cancers to die from.

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SOL INVICTUS!!!

May the Lamb bless you.

Who gave whom the halo effect? Hmmm.

And then there is the Monty Python version:

All things dull and ugly
All creatures short and squat
All things rude and nasty
The Lord God made the lot

Each little snake that poisons
Each little wasp that stings
He made their brutish venom
He made their horrid wings

All things sick and cancerous
All evil great and small
All things foul and dangerous
The Lord God made them all

Each nasty little hornet
Each beastly little squid
Who made the spiky urchin?
Who made the sharks? He did!

All things scabbed and ulcerous
All pox both great and small
Putrid, foul and gangrenous
The Lord God made them all

Amen

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Then there is the Tin Man Version:

All things made of metal
Silver, nickle and tin
Reusable and eternal
just like platinum.

Each little flake is precious.
I can mold it ad-infintum.
Be it cobalt, zinc, or copper,
metal is never glum.

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Then of course, those of us who spend time learning about invertebrate zoology, learn about organisms whose sex lives really hammer the nails into the coffin lid of the “design” assertion. Because only a truly twisted mind would “design” mating systems of this sort.

You can imagine the fun I have dangling this little lot before the usual suspects. Some of them leave skid marks on exit from my home, if they make the mistake of knocking on my door, asking to talk about their favourite brand of cartoon magic man.

In the case of those specimens who want to vent their spleen over homosexuality, it isn’t long before I wheel out the numerous scientifically documented instances of gay insects, of which Xylocoris maculipennis from Australia is a particularly delicious example. This is a species in which some males will invite other males to engage in homosexual copulation with them, for the express purpose of decommissioning the genitalia of their rivals temporarily, so that they can then go on and mate with the females. The receiving males even have the ability to break down the received rival sperm, and recycle the materials for their own use.

But even better, one of the better documented features of Hemiptera, is that numerous species within that order engage in hypodermic insemination. Instead of the usual niceties of coupling male and female genitaila, males of these insects simply drive their intromittent organ through the body cavity of the females, and the sperm make their way to the females’ ovaries via the haemolymph. Bed Bugs, Cimex lectuilarius, are the best documented examples, and in this species, the females have even evolved “target spots” on their bodies for the males to aim at, in order to inflict the least damage during copulation.

This starts to become particularly relevant when I wheel out Xylocoris maculipennis, because this species is one of those that engage in hypodermic insemination. So, when the males invite homosexual copulation, it is, wait for it, hypodermic homosexual copulation. You can imagine how many mythology fanboy arteries pop when I unveil that … muhahahaha …

Then of course, there’s the use of sex as a biological weapon. Hesperocimex cochimiensis is a species within the Hemiptera, that occupies the niche of a blood feeding parasite, specialising in using various birds as hosts. It shares that niche with a similar species, Hesperocimex sonorensis. So how does cochimiensis deal with the competition? Males of cochimiensis subject the females of the rival sonorensis to, in effect, hypodermic rape. The unfortunate sonorensis females then experience a massive and fatal immune reaction to the cochimiensis sperm.

There are, of course, even weirder organisms to look for in the realm of invertebrate zoology, who take the business of bizarre sex lives to spinal Tap 11. But these two should be sufficient to start with. Enjoy!

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So believe it or not (if you every paid attention in school you would know) that even Milaria spreading mosquitos serve a vital purpose in our symbiotic (google it) life cycle system. Yes they are created by God (creator of all things) . If they ceased to exist and perform this function, you would cease to wake up and eat your coco puffs and scroll tic toc for nifty ways to mock and ridicule your creator and persecute those who don’t.

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Coco Puffs are okay, but I prefer Lucky Charms and Corn Pops.

And I don’t have to scroll TicToc or anywhere else to learn how to point out the ridiculous nature and horrid demeanor of the biblical god. All I have to do is open the bible, and there is all the material I need to mock the absurdity therein. Hell, if anything, I go on TicToc to point out those things to others who don’t know any better.

As for persecuting those who do not mock/ridicule YOUR creator, that is absurd. I have no ill-will whatsoever toward those who choose to take comfort in believing in an imaginary security blanket. People do what they must do to cope with the stresses in this world. Who am I to deny them that? HOWEVER, if/when any of them approach ME and start demanding I should also believe in their chosen means of coping, then I will most certainly respond by pointing out the reasons I do not share their belief. If you consider that as “persecution”, then that is a YOU problem, not a ME problem.

By the way, in case you haven’t been told yet, EVERYBODY is agnostic in respects to god(s). Therefore, to label yourself as “agnostic” carries about the same significance as saying, “I’m a human.” Just so you know.

(Edit for the sake of repetitive redundancy again.)

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You are so wrong banana breath, There are 3500 species of mosquito. Only 100 of these species carry Malaria or other diseases that can be transmitted to humans. Ridding the planet of 100 species still leaves us with 3,400 species. Had you paid attention in science class, you just might know this shit.

Honestly, it gets even worse for you. You might want to stop eliminating mosquitos at fewer than a dozen species. in three genera—Anopheles, the malaria mosquito), Aedes the principal vector for yellow fever, dengue and Zika) and Culex responsible for spreading West Nile, St. Louis encephalitis and other viruses. That would probably do the trick.

Your God is a fucking idiot. Not every mosquito is useful. His plan is fucked up. Only a complete asshole would invent baby killing mosquitos as part of the ecosystem. Your argument would sound better if you insisted,‘Satan added a few bad species of mosquitoes to the batch and god left them there to test our faith.’

Your argument is idiotic, from beginning to end.

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John Lennon. Thomas Andrews. Marilyn Monroe.

Let these widely known people who mocked god be a lesson to us all… because they subsequently died.

That’s right. Bereft of life after degrading the sacredness of the bearded fucker in the sky. So just stop with all your misguided TikTacs before your own smiting from the creator, heathens.

@Tin-Man, I recommend the following cereal. @Richeydale67 is taking the prize for a shit argument but you’ll be able to spew it like a champ from the end that excrement is meant to exit.

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I am impressed and pleased to see a person with your mind-set actually coming onto this website. It adds a bit of spice to it all. I think your bravery should be congratulated, rather than met with expletives. Rational arguments is surely the aim of the debates here. So I for one welcome you because you add depth to the debate, otherwise we atheists are all preaching to the converted.

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You just finished mocking and ridiculing your creator. You do so very much have I’ll will. Otherwise you would quietly disbelieve and have no need to spend your time on a website talking about God’s evil Mosquitos.

I would imagine that this is how you have been communicating without disconnect, since you were 5. If not for this resentful persecuting rhetoric you would be devoid of personal satisfaction to any extent.

The problems are:

  1. I do not believe your claim that there is/was a “creator”.
  2. If you convince me we do have a creator, how does it link convincingly to your godofchoice?

Don’t worry I’ll wait.

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Actually…no. It won’t. It actually makes the god look even worse. By using that kind of argument, it further emphasizes the impotence of the god, claimed to be all-powerful and all-merciful. Let us for the sake of this argument assume that this Satan-dude indeed was the creator of malaria mosquitoes and/or the malaria parasites. Then, for the claimed all-powerful, all-knowing, all-merciful god to not fix this, to not clean up after its alleged adversary, shows that the god is not all-knowing + all-merciful + all-knowing. The god would have to be ignorant of the creation of these mosquitoes+parasites, and/or it didn’t/doesn’t give a shit and let innocent babies suffer while watching them do it, and/or not be able to fix it.

So whichever way you look at it, the god is a piece of shit: The god created malaria parasites+mosquitoes => the god is a piece of shit; Satan created malaria parasites+mosquites => the god is a piece of shit for not cleaning up.

Actually, it is quite funny (in a tragic way) when you - or any other people believeing in invisible friends - project your thought processes on others, believing them to be universal. Especially when you do it with people that you know think differently or are of another opinion. Furthermore, your quoted quote in the quotation(*) above easily applies to yourself when you deny all other gods and deities that others believe in. So please stop it, it’s just a ridiculous and pathetic rhetorical device that leads you nowhere.

(*) Yeah, redundant pleonasm, I know.

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If I may be sold bold, I might personally add a #3:

Even if the creator were found to be real, does this automatically mean that anyone should follow it?

Should any of us really be slaves for a creature that has created us sick, which we apparently are, then commanded us to be well upon pain of eternal torture?

… Ok, that’s two questions, but on this subject the questions tend to beget more questions.

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No no no … not to fix it but to test our faith.

No no no… I said he left them - that means intentionally - to test our faith. God has a long track record of allowing Satan to “test our faith.” Ever read the book of Job?

God does not care who dies in this realm. All babies go to heaven. It’s the Christian way. That’s why the god of the bible can treat them like shit, rip them out of their mother’s wombs and dash them onto rocks. That’s why the god of the bible can force mothers to eat their young. Babies don’t count. They get a free ticket to the holy land. Just ask Sndrea Yeates.

Actually the poor old mosquito is getting all the flack here instead of the real villains we should be firing at,-- those parasites with their amazingly cunning life cycle which influence the mosquito’s behavior too. Apparently there is evidence that these parasites were causing much trouble to the ancient Egyptians over 4 thousand years ago as well.

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