Why you disbelieve in any deity(s)

How is it possible to drink only two cups a day? I drink two cups of strong coffee before breakfast. Then, at work, I drink two to three big cups (0.35 liters) of strong coffee. And I might also throw in an extra espresso before dinner after I get back home. A little less in the weekends.

Edit: I’m Scandinavian, and Scandinavians are well known for drinking lots of coffee.

First, your recidivism rates are ludicrous. Next, a high recidivism is the result of a dysfunctional prison system that works as schools for teaching criminals how to be more criminal, and is damaging the inmates psychologically, and not preparing them for the outside world. When prisoners are released into society, they have no clue how to behave, and fall back into what they know best, which is crime.

In the Nordic countries, emphasis is on rehabilitation and on releasing prisoners that will actually function in society, and to avoid damaging the inmates psychologically. This approach works, just look at the recidivism rates in e.g. Norway - 20% within two years (Incarceration in Norway - Wikipedia).

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Data show that by the end of the five-year follow-up period, approximately three-quarters (76.6%) of prisoners released in 2005 were rearrested. Furthermore, the BJS found that most
released prisoners were rearrested within one year of being released. By the end of the first year following release, 43.4% of inmates were rearrested.

THE 5 YEAR FOLLOW UP IS WHAT THE PRISON SYSTEM RELIES ON. (IT’S A LIE)

Five in 6 (83%) (EIGHTY-THREE PERCENT) state prisoners released in 2005 FIGURE 1 across 30 states were arrested at least once during Annual arrest percentage of prisoners released in the 9 years following their release. The remaining 30 states in 2005 (2018 Update on Prisoner Recidivism:
A 9-Year Follow-up Period (2005-2014). Home | Bureau of Justice Statistics

The longer the study, the higher the recidivism…
„ An estimated 68% of released prisoners were arrested „ Five percent of prisoners were arrested during the frst within 3 years, 79% within 6 years, and 83% within year after release and not arrested again during the 9 years.

The study I referenced was a 10 year follow up that I used in University for a Police Science class that compared the penitentiary system to our modern system of rehabilitation. I can no longer find. Sorry. I hope this makes the point…

The Government flat out lies about the recidivism rates so that they can justify their rehabilitation programs. I used to run several of those programs. I know exactly what I am talking about.

  • An estimated 68% of released prisoners were arrested within 3 years, 79% within 6 years, and 83% within 9 years.

Sorry I can’t find the 95% statistic…

My ethnicity is Irish Celt.

I drink 10 demitasse of coffee a day. Partly because I love coffee and enjoy the little rituals preparing it, starting with a decent burr grinder.

However, I think the real reason is probably because I have an addictive personality,and can become addicted to anything. That’s why I did not develop an interest in games after I stopped drinking and smoking.

I wander in every now and then.

Mostly to observe how pretentiousness can drag down an otherwise fun discussion.

back to…“seek”

Seek to find is different from find

Play with that for a week…I might be back.

Oh, must you?

My attitude that possibility is best expressed in an old Joke;

He says :" Do you mind if I smoke?"

I say :“Mate I don’t care if you bursts into flames”

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It’s not a question of ethnicity, but of culture. Nordic people drink a lot of coffee because coffee permeates next to every social situation. You have coffee with breakfast, coffee with lunch, coffee after dinner, you take coffee breaks at work, you go out for coffee, you invite people over for coffee, you stop for a coffee break when out driving, you bring a thermobottle of coffee when going out for a hike, if you’re at a cafe and don’t know what to drink, coffee is the natural choice, and so on. According to this source, the five Nordic countries are on the list of the top six consumers of coffee (per capita) in the world.

@vicillinden

You seem to wander in to be ever more condescending, and drop in evasive straw man arguments.

Now one more time since your evasion is fooling nobody.

If, as you claimed, dictionaries don’t offer definitions, then where do you think word definitions are to be found?

You could start by citing a credible reference for your erroneous claim that disbelief in a deity is a claim no deity exists. Which directly contradicts every definition I can find.

A lot easier if you were man enough to admit to a simple error, as disbelief is not a claim no deity exists, as you asserted. And you can hurl as many ad hominem fallacies at me as you like, but its be a lot simpler to either admit you were wrong or offer something tangible in support of your claim.

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Any chance you’ll even attempt to justify this remark? I think I know the answer.

And you hilariously accuse me of condescension in my reply, that’s pretty funny…

It’s quite simple: I’m too old for imaginary friends

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Yes…

Also, interestingly, in Canada :canada: the highest category for re-offending is “statutory release” (good behaviour in prison leading to earlier then prescribed release) at 36.6%Those who completed their sentences, and on parole had a 12.8% AND were 2.5 times more likely to re-offend if they were unemployed.

Within all the mush of statistics are mental illness, addictions, personality disorders and circumstances/opportunities of “crime”…(eg. when my van door was left open, an opportunity for someone to steal; fortunately they didn’t :wink:)

Is my “feel” for your posts, Cog, that the system is the “system” and nothing could/would change or improve it?

To me the system is just another method of “control.” Control of many by the few.

Religion = control
Government with the illusion of choice = control

Where as the criminal justice system in the US, (the one I am familiar with.) Is another form of control.

Do not want to play ball with society rules, being a good little tax paying citizen that follows all the rules, even if your place within society is possibly at or near the bottom of the pile, quite often to no fault of your own? Working 2-3 full time jobs just to keep food on the table and the lights on? Tired of being which parents you were born to powerfully indicating your lot in life?

Well if you dare break the rules, they have a place for you, and once you are in, you are not likely getting back out. The only people that will hire you with a criminal record are typically physical labor intensive jobs that no one else wants to do.

Naturally the folks that commit violent crimes are in that mix too, and oh hey let’s mix those people in with the people that are in for nonviolent crimes! Many of which simply could not afford bail and only had a highly overworked and exhausted public attorney to represent them.

How to fix all that? My guess starting with reducing inequality would be a great step. Maybe we will eventually get there, but so far to me, all of human history has been the few controlling the many, with ever more effective methods as the centuries go by.

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seek
verb

  1. attempt to find (something).

:face_with_raised_eyebrow: :roll_eyes:

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Yep…

Finding is FINDING…Seeking is ATTEMPTING to find.

I agree, but you’re of course ignoring the context that you used the word find in, in your original post, which meant the claims were the same.

Now, where are word definitions to be found, if as you claim they are not to be found in dictionaries?

Please cite a credible reference to support your absurd claim that disbelief in a deity, is a claim no deity exists?

I am flattered that you find me so attractive…but it is getting tiresome.

I still have zero interest in your obfuscating blather.

And trust me, nothing about this display flatters you.

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My two oldest are a year and three days apart.

As little kids…one was a teaser and the other was a whiner.

The teaser would smirk or wink…and the whiner would scream to us, saying he was being mean.

One day, when he was old enough to (kinda) understand…we said: “Just ignore him”

All day, he followed the other one around, babbling: “I’m ignoring you…I’m ignoring you”.

Well done, Sheldon.

That rather facile ad hominem ironically simply underlines the detail of your juvenile evasion here.

You made 2 claims, both of which are wrong. This is a debate forum, if you come here then, to use your puerile ad hominem attempt, babbling you’re ignoring someone because they’ve disagreed with you rather speaks for itself.

You claimed dictionaries don’t have word definitions, yet won’t tell us what your reference point is for word definitions?

You claim disbelief in a deity was a claim no deity exists, yet every definition I can find refutes this, and quelle surprise, you won’t even pretend to have a reference for your asinine claim.

I’ll dumb it down for you, I’m engaging in debate, in a debate forum, you’re sulking like a child who can’t accept being wrong or anyone disagreeing with them…in a debate forum…

Post all the ad hominem you want, it’s hardly raising your stock on here.

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ok

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