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Haha I donāt have to demonstrate anything mate
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Consciousness is at the core of who humans are.
You believe we are nothing more than matter , chemicals, that were produced by lifeless inanimate matter that is random , blind, indifferent with no meaning and no purpose and miracle of miracles viola! we have life, meaning , purpose , love , beauty , art , science . Talk about fairy tales and unicorns , you lot have it in spades.
Neuroscientists telling us that the brain produces consciousness is nothing more than telling us a radio produces the music .
Thatās ironic coming from you. We didnāt drink the Kool-Aid. You did.
Oh my, @Sid, you really are quite incredulous and suffer greatly from the logic fallacy of the same name.
This is what Iām hearing from you. Please correct me if Iāve not distilled it properly.
You believe in your god specifically (no others) although you cannot fully describe it. You believe in this god because life exists and a book says so. You think a lot of what scientists have uncovered so far is bullshit. Not all of it though, just the stuff that contradicts your beliefs. Howād I do?
I think you gain a lot of comfort in believing that your god considers you to be special enough to create, that your life isnāt because of the crap-shoot of reality. Personally, I consider myself quite fortunate to be able to experience living despite the odds against my existence. I find it stunning that abiogenesis followed by evolution has brought us to the point at which we can create art, music, science, etc. and enjoy it. I find that because of the evolutionary tip toward having emotions, I get to love. Wow! What a wonderful turn of events! That you are so needy you must have a parental figure in your life to love and care for you is, well, sad.
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Blind assertion. Like so many others youāve posted here.
No, we accept the relevant postulates, because scientists have provided the hard experimental evidence for those postulates .
Your specious attempt to equate this with your uncritical acceptance of unsupported mythological assertions, is precisely that - specious.
As opposed to āMagic Man did it by waving his magic todger about, and meant for us to kiss its arse for eternity?ā
Just because youāre incapable of understanding how testable natural processes can achieve the requisite results, doesnāt validate an imaginary cartoon magic man from a goat herder mythology.
Which is pretty much what your favourite goat herder mythology amounts to.
No, what we have in spades is actual learning on the matter, provided by people whose neurons were working properly. Unlike "Magic Man did it ".
As opposed to mythology fanboys like you telling us āMagic Man did itā being nothing more than telling us the music appears by magic?
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Canāt more like, you still have failed to offer any evidence or explanation as to why you believe an evolved emotion like love evidences a deity. If you want to deny scientific facts, while indulging vapid superstition crack on, but itās clear youāre holding an empty bag, and have no interest in debate.
If you want to peddle your superstitious wares, try praying them to us, if that works then weāll talk.
All of those things exist champ, youāre the one adding inexplicable magic from an unevidenced deity, Occamās razor applies, slashā¦
Speak for yourself.
Again then, youāre the one adding unevidenced magic and sky fairies to those things, no one else.
What a spectacularly stupid claim.
It is the product of a functioning human brain, and it disappears every time the brain dies, forever. I guess if you believe in sky fairies using magic, one could imagine thatās a coincidence, but your rationale is risible nonetheless.
If my consciousness existed independently of my brain, then Iām curious why it didnāt exist before my brain started functioning, and why it disappeared so completely when on all three occasions I received a general anaesthetic. In case your brain isnāt functioning well enough to work out the inference, a supernatural consciousness that existed independently of a physical brain, disappearing due to the natural physiological effects of an anaesthetic is laughable.
But then, appeals to mystery and magic always are laughable.
Iām still baffled by how @Sid can sit here and throw taunts and jeers and call that a good witness for his religion. You do such a disservice to the humble polite theists I know who keep their religion to themselves. I actually have quite a few theist friends, and they would all likely agree you are not one of them. Your arrogance and pride alone strip away any shred of respect anyone could have for your arguments. Not that your arguments are even convincing in the slightest. Youāre holier than thou baloney is super cringe.
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The only thing you are close with is being able to fully describe God . The rest is just all your imaginations .
Go on then , post up where Iāve mentioned my so called religious beliefs
Post them up then, you seem to want to play games and keep cherry-picking what you do and donāt believe in. Do you accept the Bible in its entirety? Or what holy book is your book of choice to read?
Well, I made these guesses based on what youāve written. For instance, you chide posters for citing the work of scientists in reference to your beliefs, and have done so several times. Why do you do this, yet do it using a device made available because of the work of other scientists?
Itās in your profile that youāre a theist, and you claimed that āloveā was a sufficient reason alone for you to believe in a deity.
The fact you wonāt expand on that is hardly anyone elseās fault, and has been abundantly clear from the start that the reason is you know you have naught but an empty bag, which is why you keep trying to focus on other peopleās lack of belief.
Not believing your claim a deity exists requires no evidence, the burden of proof is yours, as you are the one making a claim. The creationist propaganda is simply risible.
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How does an evolved emotion like love evidence the existence of a creator? Such emotions clearly have a survival benefit, and evolution can already explain itās existence, so what have you got?
Now, if THAT isnāt the Irony Overload Statement of the Year, I donāt know what is. 
What flavor was it? My favorite flavor is grape. Is that why they ādrinkā the blood of christ in the catholic mass? Maybe itās really godās Kool Aid.
The term was coined from Jim Jones. Presently it is often used in reference to describe obstinate and devout religious folk that are delusional. Another one that can be used is "Red Pill and Blue Pill " which is borrowed from The Matrix.
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No,youāve already made the claim about me posting about my religious beliefs . All I am asking is for you to back up that statement by posting the comments you claim I have made
If I remember correctly the only choices available were either Atheist or Theist . Iām not an Atheist so that only leaves ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦
Youāve lost me there mate . Be more specific.