Why do they believe?

This is the second time @Sid :warning:

Not being able to engage in a constructive manner is a ground for suspension.

Answer the above.

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I agree. Some folks just need to say “I can have an illogical, unevidenced belief because it’s a nice warm emotional blankey”.
Coming onto an atheist forum to try to convert or convince the beliefs are “real” is another thing altogether.

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You can believe in a creator without being religious .

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Bollocks. Just suspend me or ban me . It’s your sandbox and you make the rules according to what suits you .
When you stand for nothing and there is ZERO evidence to satisfy any intellectual debate then you are right 100% of the time. Boring .

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In case you never learned this, it’s not a “who” that determines what constitutes evidence, but reality. Learn this lesson sometime.

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There is no reason to believe in a creator.

If God created the Universe, then where did God come from?

If God has always existed, then why not believe that the Universe has always existed?

If God’s origin is an unanswerable question, then why not decide that the origin of the Universe is an unanswerable question?

We shouldn’t believe in something just because we want to and it makes us feel better . . . as I mentioned earlier, self-deception can be dangerous.

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God you’re bossy. Like anything in life there’s always more than two options. Take the next three months of silence, to read and think for yourself.

@Sid is on an official 3 month silence period. He can’t post.

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Here’s a clue for you. I provided this post elsewhere explaining what constitutes genuine evidence refuting or confirming an assertion.

Bullshit. We stand for discoursive honesty. Something you’ve never displayed here.

Projection, much?

Such as your snide attempt to dismiss my use of the Innes book as an example of factual documentation? Which you laughably tried to hand-wave away with a fake accusation of “appeal to authority”?

Projection time again.

What part of “there exist proper rules of discourse, and we understand them” are you trying and failing to evade here?

Funny how we can point to scientific backing for our statements. Unlike mythology fanboys.

Your duplicity isn’t.

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religion

noun

  1. the belief in and worship of a superhuman power or powers, especially a God or gods.

Since humans don’t have the power to create universes, and the creator you believe exists outside of your imagination, can’t be detected or explained by scientific understanding or the laws of nature. No you can’t believe in such a creator and claim it is not a religion.

You’ve been cut more slack, and are less deserving of that, than any theists I can remember on here.

Like your constant lies, not holding one specific belief in unevidenced superstition does not mean you don’t stand for anything, this is blatant ad hominem on your part.

It’s no one here’s fault that you came here with no objective evidence whatsoever, and don’t have even the most facile understanding of debate or reasoned discourse or the principles of logic. Or that you have relentlessly ignored and now decried explanations posted to help you understand how idiotically irrational and poorly reasoned your arguments are.

Now after weeks of lies evasion and idiotically irrational claims, it seems sulking and histrionics is all you have left to offer. Seriously what on earth did you think would happen, we’d all “roll over and let you tickle our belly”?

Yes your bs has been and is relentlessly boring, also dishonest, and also irrational and unevidenced, physician heal thyself…why the hell you think anyone here is obliged to believe your bs claims is baffling. Find a church pulpit or a revival tent if you want your superstitious wares to receive uncritical approbation.

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Hahaha…you made me laugh again. That’s twice this morning! Now, run along and try not to dislocate your shoulder patting yourself on the back.

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Er, how many peer reviewed scientific papers have I brought here, to support various postulates?

By contrast, all you’ve brought is snide condescension, and ex recto apologetic fabrications.

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And why has there been a small minority? The majority killed them off! Duh! How in the fuck do you think religions spread? “You must believe in our god or die.” This is how Islam spread. This is how Christianity spread. That is how the Pagan faiths of Greece and Rome spread. Of course, it’s a minority! DUH! It’s taken us 2000 years to drag your fucking asses into a more rational world.

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Wait, there’s a rational world? Why in the fuck hasn’t somebody told me about this? Sheesh…secret keeping pos’s…

Edit (a little bird told me)

Not that long ago not a living soul believed the notion of continental drift, were they all correct? I can give you a clue if 3 months isn’t long enough for you to get this one right.

Argumentum ad populum

“an argumentum ad populum (Latin for “appeal to the people”) is a fallacious argument which is based on claiming a truth or affirming something is good because the majority thinks so.”

This is also known as a Bandwagon fallacy.

"The bandwagon fallacy argues that a claim is true because a lot of people believe it’s true, or conversely a claim is not true because a lot of people believe it’s not…bandwagon is fallacious because popularity doesn’t determine truth.

It’s important to remember that the truth of a claim isn’t determined by its popularity but by the evidence supporting it. Therefore, once you recognize the use of the bandwagon fallacy, call it out, and ask for evidence."

Poor @Sid, he’s never going to learn it seems.

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While things are not always as they seem, they often are.

Edit (looks like a duck to me)

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Pretty sure every Irony Meter on the planet just exploded.

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[quote=“Tin-Man, post:77, topic:3889, full:true”]

All except @Sid’s, which is still in the negative, theists are very often irony impaired.

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NO! There is not a rational world. “There is a more rational world.” Living in a ‘rational’ world would be ‘irrational.’

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Does anyone think this clown will actually come back?

Oops, egg on my face…I knew it to be too good to be true. (I’m sure you guys are withholding some stuff anyway)

Edit for self-flagellation

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