Well, honestly, I was just saying that so people didn’t attack me, but since that didn’t work,I’ll just come out with it: I said the original thing because I believe it.
Old man … Drew is only interested in studies. Word definitions and actual meaning has no room in it’s world. If Drew says “atheism” is a religion, it’s a religion. If Drew says murder is taking a life of the same species … it must be so!!! The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.
Now I’m off to my non-stamp collector’s gathering where we share our love of not collecting stamps and must therefor be stamp collectors.
I like mr.macbre, and we are on good terms. In this forum, if one utters something we disagree with, they will be called out. mr.macabre has standards and positions we disagree on, but have you ever heard of Elon Musk? He is his own man and unafraid to be wrong or make mistakes. And just like Elon mr.macabre walks his own path, one he is unapologetic about. And I do respect him for that, he has good standards and stick to them. He doesn’t spout crap. He just expresses his positions.
Personally, I spend a lot of time in a chat where I speculate a lot. Yes, I have been off-base a lot, and had to eat crow.But I would rather not walk the safe path and be willing to accept being wrong and suffer the consequences.
Atheism can be defined as non-acceptance of the god claim. Full stop, nothing more, nothing less.
The null hypothesis is a default hypothesis that a quantity to be measured is zero (null). In other words, as applies to claims, nothing is accepted without good evidence or proof.
I am an atheist, so just how the heck am I religious in any way? In any way?
If you don’t believe in God, then that is a belief surround a religious thing, is it not? Also, there are so many religious people in the world that NOT believing is a significant thing.
Imagine a big gumball machine full of gumballs.My buddy states that there is an odd number of gumballs inside that machine. I state I do not agree with him.
Am I stating that I believe there is an even number of gumballs, or am I just withholding belief until proof is offered?
Not exactly. A religion is a belief and a belief is an affirmation of a claim that holds a burden of proof. Atheism is a disbelief. When you de-convert to Atheism. You do not have a religion or believe in the existence of deities. Which I’m going to assume that you understand. But to further break that down to where you see it as an actual disbelief:
Theism, monotheism and polytheism, is the belief in deities and magic. So if you’re an Atheist and you compare those non beliefs to that of Theism, you believe in nothing. Meaning you don’t believe in the things on that check list that a Christian or a Hindu would believe in.
You don’t believe in magic, you don’t pray, you don’t go to a church or a temple, you don’t believe in the existence of one of more deities, you don’t worship one or more deities, you don’t drink cow piss to be blessed by Brahma, you don’t view mutations as a blessing from Vishnu, you’re not against pre-marital sex or poly relationships for monotheist reasons, you don’t believe that a deity (God) thinks homosexuals are abominations and deny that it’s hereditary, you don’t tithe or piss away your money on religious scams in the form of charity, you don’t think we’re cursed from birth to be sinners, you don’t do good things because you think a deity will give you points for it, you don’t believe we were created by one or more deity, so on and so forth. Religion is full of absurdities.
If you don’t believe in the things that I listed. Than it’s exactly that. You believe in “nothing” pertaining to Monotheism or Polytheism. It speaks for itself if you really think it over.
While I agree that there are shallow, stupid questions in your list . . . I think some of them are actually very good questions that deserve thoughtful, civil answers.
I actually don’t have a problem with religion . . . I have a problem with the evil nastiness that’s done because of religion.
My biggest question that’s relevant to religion and atheism is as follows:
“Is it possible to separate religion from the nastiness that’s associated with it . . . yet still leave the religious principles intact?”
I’m sure that everyone here will give me an automatic “no,” but I’m not so sure.
Religion has stayed intact after accommodating hand washing by obstetricians and permitting lightning rods to be placed on church steeples, so maybe there’s hope . . . although–in all honesty–my hopes regarding this question dwindle more and more as I’ve gotten older and less idealistic and, perhaps, more cynical.