Why do atheïsts rely so heavily on science

I thought this was a conversation as opposed to a contest.

If that makes me a loser so be it.

Now what’s your prize for having “won”?

I answered this question as best I could.

That you found my answer unsatisfactory tends to confirm my beliefs about explanations.

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Again then, this is a debate forum, though of course those are not mutually exclusive, nor does a discussion rule out you having the courtesy to address criticisms of your claims of course.

That’s not what he said though?

This is not a formal debate of course, but if someone makes sweeping claims they aren’t prepared to evidence or defend, then one can draw a pretty obvious inference.

You responded, you didn’t even pretend to answer, and what’s with clipping the quotes so all context is lost?

Sorry, what am i thinking, another question…

Nope, but then you seem to think your beliefs are beyond critical scrutiny.

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Although there is a mechanism here for flagging posts, I typically catch trolling without initiation of that mechanism.
BTW, I see no evidence that you are trolling, therefore, your account is active. :slightly_smiling_face:
As a side question, what constitutes “classier”?

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It’s no longer a conversation when you cannot provide evidence that you’re correct in your arguments. It becomes a circular argument that goes on and on until it is an Ad Nauseam with the same results for the person presenting the argument.

Normally in a court of law when someone cannot present objective evidence to the judge & jury for their claims, they lose their case. If the defendant cannot prove they’re innocent, they end up with a sentence with (x) amounts of years. Even they still argue that they are innocent even when the evidence incriminating them strongly says otherwise

I agree.

You are being woeful discourteous in badgering me for a response when I insist I’ve done my best.

Assume or infer what you like, as if you haven’t already made up your mind having made your various accusations.

IMO, a classier website wouldn’t allow this treatment of a guest.

As to what normally happens in court, this is of no interest to me until such time as I’ve been duly served with notice that a suit has been filed.

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Well, I don’t think you’re being treated in any negative way. One guest disagreeing with another guest, or asking them for backup on what they’ve written is reasonable. No one has violated the forum guidelines (no threats of violence, no bigotry, etc) by doing so.
So I suppose it’s my fault that this is a classless place. I have been called way worse than classless in my day, though.

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An actual photo of last year’s AR holiday party, @NY_G_PA2. The theme was “Another shot at high class” and, well, you can see the result. Hopeless.

That’s @CyberLN in the red slippers berating me for wearing the purple that doesn’t match anything else there at all.

When you head back to one of them more sophisticated forums, be a dear and bring back some hors d’oeuvres. It’s been so long since we had something with olive tampenade.

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Dammit @Bluedoc ! You promised not to publish that picture!

But thank you for never wearing purple again.

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People are afforded respect, but beliefs claims and ideas must earn it, based on their own merit. You have not been disrespected, only the nonsensical and unevidenced claims you have made.

FYI clipping quotes to remove all intended context from my posts, is definitely not courteous behaviour.

On the contrary, in a public debate forum evasion and dishonesty is what is discourteous, and even repeating claims and arguments, while ignoring refutations and objections.

I have made no assumptions, and my decision about whether a claim belief or idea has merit, is always based on the facts, and post content, what’s more there is no idea or belief I would not abandon if sufficient objective evidence demonstrated it was false. So this is just more deflection, and projection from you, ironically.

You think a debate forum would be “classier” if it indulged poor reasoning, and unevidenced claims? I can only strongly disagree.

I made no mention of court?

As for you doing your best, you seem yet again to have evaded answering even a single question, or objection to any of your previous claims, any thoughts on how that might be perceived?

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What happens on the AR holiday party, stays on the AR holiday party…

Ahem!

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You’re either missing the point or you’re evading the point. When someone makes a claim, they still have a burden of proof that they have to meet when making claims of any kind.

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Just to recap, the word atheist in the title strikes me as projection, and suggests a more salient question is, why do theists deny objective scientific facts. Though of course we probably know the answer to this, as the hostility towards science is undoubtedly because the method has increased our knowledge of reality exponentially, whilst not evidencing any deity at all, and of course has roundly refuted religious ideas that were lauded as immutably true.

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It’s not just atheists who rely heavily on science, but the entire world.
That’s because science is the best system we have to understand the world around us and develop the answers to the every-day challenges we face, just think about it: without science i wouldn’t have the computer i am using to answer this question or the internet connection required to send this post, without science i wouldn’t even have an house or an education to write in english in this moment.
Every single advancement of the human race was achieved thanks to science and to throw it away means to throw away the future, just imagine if we blindly believed everything we heard without questioning it with the scientific method.

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