Yes another errant claim with no supporting evidence. I’ve been debating atheists both online and offline for some forty years.
I don’t care, I’m not here to discuss me but atheism, if you want to discuss me you’ll be disappointed.
I ask again, what is your educational background? If you read my original post, I never said your views are wrong because of your education level.
If you cannot respond to arguments without a need to know personal details of your opponent then right there we have a problem.
Major Premise: The natural world exists.
Minor Premise: There are things about the natural world we don’t understand.
Conclusion: Therefore, god exists.
You ask " How is this not a fallacy but you wrote that!
We use epistemologies to know if something is evidence or not.
On the contrary we use epistemologies to DEFINE what it means to “know” to define what constitutes knowledge.
I “manned” up and said the scientific method is the epistemology.
You meant to write “is an epistemology” yes?
I asked for you to provide another one that works for god, but I don’t think you can.
God can be inferred from observation. As soon as we discover that the thing we seek to explain cannot be the explanation for itself we can infer God. Since no material agency can have caused material to exist we must - if we are logical - infer something outside of naturalism else naturalism remains unexplained.
It is a totally natural line of reasoning and hardly new, these ideas were discussed in antiquity before Christ even.
Do you care about truth?
Do I care about truth? Yes I’d say it has some importance.
If you have to invent a whole new epistemology to prove one thing true, there is no way to know if that process is actually any good and not just self serving.
What are you referring to here as “new” exactly? logic? inference? what could be possibly contentious here?
This is also circular reasoning. How can you come up with a method to distinguish evidence if you are not sure if it is evidence considering we have no way of running tests?
Who said anything about “running tests” not me. What I have said is what exactly is the atheist asking for when they ask to see evidence for God? All evidence is interpreted and we must therefore choose how to interpret evidence.
Some insist that anything material presented as being evidence for God, can always be explained as simply evidence for some as-yet unknown material process and that right there is the real circular reasoning.
“Please show me evidence for God but whatever you do show me I believe will have a natural explanation”.
Faced with that why would I bother showing such a person evidence? if they’ve already decided that whatever is shown to them cannot really ever be evidence then why ask for it at all?
Scientologist claim that these beings called thetan exists. Why don’t you man up and just tell us how you would distinguish evidence from non-evidence for thetans?
Is this an admission then that you actually cannot distinguish evidence for God yourself? your asking me to do this for you?
I’m not the person asking for evidence, claiming there is none, no that is the atheist, that’s what they do, harp on and on and on about never seeing evidence yet knowing full well they’d reject whatever was shown to them anyway, I mean how can any self respecting intelligent person actually fall for this claptrap of a worldview.
Why are you here? You’re like the my pillow guy. “I have evidence that the election was stolen, but we won’t show you.” You don’t have any evidence; you just think you do. If all of these apologists I have read and listened to don’t have the answer, why would I expect it from you?
There’s a rather obvious difference, we can define what evidence would support the claim the election was stolen, there are reasonable criteria like a judge finding reasonable grounds or evidence of fake ballots or video recordings of manipulation or evidence that computers were not secure and so on.
What criteria would you use to decide if X was evidence for God or not?