Ratty, why do this to yourself. You are just going to lose another silly debate on Buddhist philosophy. You can’t demonstrate Karma. The soul is a dead concept. Nirvana is a made up story. Anyone can meditate and there are many ways to do it, mindfulness, being only one. Enlightenment is a red herring. There is no freedom from suffering, just a better mental attitude towards it. A Buddhist monk that tells you he did not suffer when his pet dog was poisoned by a neighbor, is a fucking asshole and so delusional as to be detached from reality. (That is not a good thing.)
You are losing once again…
There are a lot of cool Buddhist Koans that really do speak to the human situation and the human mind. Some very good thinkers came up with them. I enjoy many Buddhist stories and have likely even quoted a few. But the Koans are not the Philosophy. The Koans are not Karma, Rebirth, Freedom from Suffering, The Nobel Truths or any of that other Bullshit. They are just insightful stories that can be useful at times. They generally have elements of existentialist thought to them and that is probably why I enjoy them so much. If you apply any basic Koan to Buddhist Philosophy, Buddhism itself disappears.
Sanskrit , the ancient language of India which can be traced back to 2000BC in its earliest written form.
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During the early Harappan phase (c. 3500-2700 BCE), we find the earliest known examples of the Indus Script signs, attested on Ravi and Kot Dijipotteryexcavated at Harappa. Based on the fact that only one sign is displayed on the pottery surface, these examples represent a premature stage in the development of the Indus Script. Its full development was reached during the Urban period (c. 2600-1900 BCE), when longer inscriptions are recorded.
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How old was the future royalist when he left…6? Nope. 10? Nope. Uh - much older, eh? It’s not like he was raised to be educated or anything. Lol
It’s also ubiquitous in nature. Nothing supernatural or superstitious is needed to explain it.
As are all assertions? Which is why I asked…
What objective evidence can you demonstrate for your assertions?
Groovy, verify how exactly, and what objective evidence can you demonstrate for this verification? The fact that members of a cult or religion tend for the most part to agree their beliefs are valid, does not validate those beliefs. This is merely a bare appeal to numbers, an argumentum ad populum fallacy.
I don’t believe you, not least because you aren’t qualified to diagnose back conditions, have never met me, and are are basing your claim on an argument from assertion fallacy.
Which is why my doctor has prescribed anti inflammatory medication no doubt. And also recommended stretching, an opinion my Osteopath shares. Though none of this requires I believe anything that can’t be objectively evidenced. If they start making those claims, I’m going to remain dubious.
Well of course, but medication can be used to influence physical and mental processes. What has this to do with you evidencing claims for the supernatural?
You know, I started in on this but decided that it has little to do with atheism. So… Believe it or not, this is one of those times, wait for it… little drum roll please… I have actually moderated myself.
@boomer47 That is correct. The Buddha never wrote down his teachings, but they were recorded later…centuries later…and that’s the problem. How do we know, whether or not the recollection of what the Buddha taught or said is even accurate and correct? We can only hope it is, but if that is not the case, well, that is going to be a problem, isn’t it?
I am definitely not looking forward to growing old now. Yelp!
@boomer47 I would be lucky to live up to my 80s, and maybe 90s. The Buddha died when he was 84years of age. By then, my Social Security benefits would be kaput.
@Whitefire13 Come think of it, the Buddha never talked about his past life, before he renounced his family and his material goods, to search for Enlightenment. His focus was on the Four Noble Truths, the Eightfold Path and the Middle Way, in order to attain nirvana and spiritual enlightenment. That’s it.
So how do we even know that the story of the Buddha, being a price, and living a royal life of luxury (and then renouncing it), is even correct, when the Buddha himself made no mention of it?
We already demonstrated whatever the Buddha taught, allegedly, was horseshit deepity woo woo at best. Just inane assertions piled upon unsubstantiated beliefs and topped off with promises of a rebirth and a better life. Bullshit!
Imagine if he never adopted the notions of karma and reincarnation from Hinduism. As for a better rebirth…in this world? Why would ANYONE want that? Yuck!!!
Less than a year after he died, people saw Elvis walking the streets. The same was true of Michael Jackson. What of it? People say shit and believe shit.
How do they know that was actually Elvis or Michael Jackson, and not some person dressed up as them, maybe as some sort of cruel prank? I mean, there are some pretty bad people in this world.
Pre germ theory ,vaccinations and modern surgery lower life expectancy was due to high infant mortality, disease, accident and war. However ,some people lived to advanced old age. Ramses the great lived between 90-96 years
. I suspect that it was still rare for people to live for centuries as did people such as Moses (120 years,) Noah (350 years) and Methuselah (969 years).Do I believe that? Well of course it’s in the BIBLE! ( excuse me, it’s time to feed Trevor my dragon. I’ll just pop out and grab a homeless person)
Within my life time, in my country life expectancy has risen dramatically , from mid 60’s to over 80. As a child and young man, it was rare to meet many over 80. Currently, I know of 5 people in their 90’s and dozens in their 80’s. These are/were inmates at Mum’s aged care facility.
Life expectancy in Australia in 1950 was 66.5 years
In 2020 it was 83.5. This was an increase from 2019 when it was 83.35
. Is this common knowledge? An accusation? Or are you outing?
skin on…
