I think you’re questioning your beliefs already. If not, then why are you hanging around on an Atheist site anyway? Are you just looking for reasons to keep believing in such delusional fairy tales?
Or it can be the motive behind the worst crimes of humanity, like ethnic hatred or extreme cruelty against minorities or majorities, such as mass crimes…
I have never seen anyone do anything good with hatred because, the majority of the time, people don’t hate those who truly deserve it; instead, they choose easy targets—those who can’t defend themselves.
I’m just curious about what people have to say in response to certain arguments. Sadly, people are less and less able to find information about the topics being discussed and prefer to resort to sophistry and interminable circular questions, where no matter what you say, it is always wrong because you are the “evil believer” who, of course, has a secret agenda to convert everybody using malignant techniques.
So I can affirm that sectarian behavior is not exclusive to religions.
I don’t really see you accepting any of those answers. I find it laughably pathetic how Christians ask Atheists about Atheism but then turn around and pretend they know more about Atheism than the Atheist who has been an Atheist for decades. Make it make sense.
Because they don’t make sense and leave fundamental questions unanswered—just as you do, pretending to explain reality while being unable to address the most immediate and obvious facts about it.
You can be sceptical, in logic nothing is proven because it cannot be disproven.
They are not mutually exclusive, and I would always infer doubt from a complete absence of knowledge, and a complete absence of knowledge, is of course the definition of agnosticism.
If I can’t know if a claim is true or not, then I must withhold belief, thus I must be an atheist, if I am also an agnostic.
No citation again, quelle surprise, and again one might point to better mental health in people who believe in fairies, this would not suggest anything about the belief.
Two lies in one sentence.
Another dishonest straw man fallacy.
So does @JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU, if he truly believes the bible is the word of an infallible deity.
Exactly like the ones depicted as being endorsed by your deity in the bible.
Then you can’t believe the bible. Your deity hated adultery and murder, and so (paradoxically) tortured a baby to death over 7 days, to punish King David, and Bathsheba.
liar liar pants on fire.
Though it does promote them.
I hate fascism, I also hate child abuse, animal cruelty, homophobia, misogyny, bigotry racism etc etc
You were told this months ago, the first time you offered this argument, and despite ignoring the response, you now offer it again, DISHONESTY!!!
I am sceptical [of his claim] but nevertheless, as nothing in science is held to be so true as to be beyond challenge, the correct position is to withhold assent pending evidence. So, like you, I wait until such evidence is provided fully anticipating that it almost certainly won’t be.
There are many atheists that try to give agnosticism a different definition, a more complex one… to me an atheist believing there is no god is above and beyond the strict definition of atheism because the only thing atheism says to me is that person doesn’t believe [a theist’s] claim that a god exists. It’s a grammar thing where “a” reverses the sense of the word “theist” (with god) to mean not a theist (not with god) but what it doesn’t mean (as many theists will claim) is a specific belief that there is no such god.
I used that when I wrote my very first blog article:
This is an excellent example of how to make a conversation dysfunctional. Say things clearly, and do not set traps just to say “AHA!!” because that is ridiculous.
Just another example:
This is another example. There was an entire debate on this site about it, where I presented papers and articles to this person, and he rebutted by talking about Scandinavian countries. I replied that Scandinavian countries had been mainly religious until recently (in historical terms), etc.
But it’s always the same—once you see that your point is lost, you start making conversations dysfunctional and fabricating an artificial victory.
I don’t care… because this is no longer about truth. So yes, you are as sectarian as any other sect.
Or you’re lying, or you’re grasp of language is insufficient. I’d bet my house it’s one of those.
Yet presented no citation for that claim, as I said, and now claim you have done so in the past, yet you have again offered no link to this alleged citation, and this would take seconds…I also don’t trust your claims, because your posts are relentlessly dishonest.
I think you mean (I) not (you).
Another lie.
It never was for you, you’re a “liar for Jesus”. I doubt at this point you’re capable of being honest even to yourself. Your posts suggest you don’t even know what truth means.
“Do we need a religion to save the planet?”
Your opening thread and post…
A dishonest straw man…which as I pointed out at the time, suggests you don’t know what reason or logic mean, and note my first response:
You never responded to either question honestly, as I said. your posts are relentlessly dishonest, and from the very first.
You accuse me of “setting a trap” so I could say “aha” even though I had no way to determine that you would misconstrue what I said? Do you think I’m omniscient?
It’s always interesting how you say one thing and its opposite at the same time, and yet neither of them in a sentence, so you can always say “NO” to any possible answer the other person might offer.
It’s like, no matter what I say, the answer is always NO…
Is hatred bad? No
Is hatred good? No
Is hatred necessary? No
Is hatred unnecessary? No…
Is the sky blue? No, it is orange.
Is the sky orange? No, it is blue.
And so on…
Why do you ask questions just to end up in these circular conversations? It’s unnecessary. There are better things to do in life—I just cooked a delicious omelet, and it makes more sense than all this circular reasoning I’m reading here.
Is there any atheist capable of having a mature conversation, or is everything going to be like this? Because this is beyond ridiculous.
Now it is clear why there is a resurgence of religious beliefs in Gen Z. You’ve done a great job of showing how “superior” atheism is compared to these so-called evil and irrational religions. Essentially, you embody everything needed to understand where atheism leads—to the same lies, deception, and manipulation, all while parroting the claim that you are rational. Oh, look, we have a precedent! Eighty years of atheistic communism were enough to bring people back to God with stunning force.
Well, the life expectancy of someone who doesn’t share your viewpoints is very low here, especially if they decide not to stay silent in the face of certain absurdities—like this pathetic debate where you are explaining to each other how “not worried” you are about hell.
So, well… I wanted to say goodbye by wishing the best for each one of you, but no—I will not stop saying what I see, and I think there are people here with serious problems.