Do we need a religion to save the planet?

[Sheldon]

Wow how I loathe people who come here to preach at us, anyway…

I stopped trying to count the logical fallacies in there, someone else have a turn.

In the mean time, can @JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU answer a few questions for me please:

1. Could you define what you think morality means please?
2. What objective evidence if any, can you demonstrate that any deity exists or is even possible?

Oh, and welcome to AR…blah blah blah…

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

contrary to popular belief, reason and logic do not necessarily lead to moral behavior.

This suggests you don’t know what reason means, or what logic means, or what moral means, just saying.

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

empathy can be seen as an obstacle to achieving personal pleasure.

Nope, you’re just doing it wrong. I can say without any doubt the most pleasure I have had has involved sharing it with others, and let’s face it, I’ve had more than my fare share of pleasure alone…so I should know

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

Empathy benefits the group rather than the individual, which contradicts the pursuit of individual pleasures.

Still wrong, personal pleasure and group pleasure are definitely not mutually exclusive, this might be the stupidest post ever, yours I mean, not mine, though I rule nothing out at this point.

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

The idea of treating others as you would like to be treated does not guarantee happiness.

Pissing on your feet while wearing suede shoes is not a good idea, since we’re making trivially true sweeping claims.

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

Your real goal is to prevent others from harming you rather than preventing you from doing things that benefit you, even if they harm others.

That’s flat out BS…this is going to be a record for deepities in a single post I suspect, again your post, not mine.

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

Another argument in favor of moral behavior

Shit, I missed the first one, now I have to go back and re-read that nonsense.

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

Another argument in favor of moral behavior is the idea of ensuring a better world for future generations. However, this is irrational, as you will never experience anything beyond your lifetime.

Which principle of logic does it violate and why? Dear oh dear…

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

Caring about the future is akin to caring about Santa Claus—you will never see or experience it.

Quite possibly the stupidest claim I have ever seen, kudos.

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

For every argument supporting moral behavior, one can always find reasonable counterarguments.

Your post thus far has definitely got me questioning my own morality, luckily this egregiously stupid nonsense (again, your post, not mine) is not being offered face to face.

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

This is why religion establishes dogmas to uphold moral values.

Like slavery you mean? Exodus 21, give it a read…it’s way more entertaining than the BS you’ve posted.

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

Only by believing in an afterlife, a deity, or karma can we halt the endless chain of rational arguments that undermine morality unevidenced superstition.

Fixed it for you…

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

These dogmas allow us to justify a set of moral values that enable society to develop in beneficial ways, even if those morals do not have a positive impact on the individual’s lifetime but only on future generations.

Cool, like slavery again then, or sex trafficking children from ethnic cleansing wars. I don’t say this often enough, but you…are off your fucking tits…

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

Unfortunately, we see that our society is doing the opposite,

Thank fuck for that, as the dystopian nightmare you’re describing has been tried, just read the bible or Koran, it holds little appeal, no prize for you tonight, but thanks for playing…

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

sacrificing the future of our planet

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

ensuring a better world for future generations… is irrational

Your post has broken my stupidometer…

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU

Perhaps we need some form of religion or dogma to justify stopping this destructive behavior?

What are you suggesting, scientology?

I’m ok thanks, you believe what you want, and I will live in the real world.