The Death and Resurrection of Jesus/gospel narratives is highly historically attested according to mainstream scholars

deep sigh

Ahh. I feared this day might come. The wiener jokes have gone too far and now it is time to bring down the tent, put out the fire, pack up and return to reality.

Well, AR - I fear I may have very little else accomplish here any more.

A tear :cry:

Do you think the envrionmental pressures in post industrialised human societies mirror those of the feral existence of hyenas?

You have to live long enough to pass on the genes don’t forget.

Stick a hyena in a cage, feed it regularly, and convince it to run on a treadmill occasionally, and you have a close comparison with post industrialized modern man. But to feral hyenas, no. Begging the question, shouldn’t we return to feral ways (plus all the electronics. Just get robots to do the boring stuff).

You also have to navigate through the machinations of a society which was built up on the industrial enterprise - an enterprise in which a small percentage of the population became filthy rich and powerful, while the greater majority fell into the trap of “endless prosperity”. We live in an “urban” jungle now. It is as perilous as our former abidings.

I think that’s understating things quite a bit, given the massive difference in the evolved cognitive capacities between hyenas and humans. The point of course is that natural selection involves all environmental pressures, when we live in relatively safe post industrialised countries, a lot of the pressures we evolved under are alleviated, and we have far more time to examine morality than the majority of our forebears. many believe this however is veneer that is easily “scraped away”, certainly Golding thought so.

Well that seems contradictory, but I don’t see why we would exchange a safer easier existence for a hard dangerous feral one.

The acclamation of individual wealth preceded the industrial revolution, we live in hierarchical societies long before that, with wealth being controlled by a tiny minority. Not sure what you mean by “the greater majority fell into the trap of endless prosperity.” However even the most cynical critic would have to admit that people on the whole in developed nations live longer safer lives, how satisfying we find them is entirely subjective I suppose, but I’d personally not exchange it for a feral existence in a small group of hunter gatherers.

The evidence suggests it is not, there is a very good work called “The Better Angels of Our Nature” by Steven Pinker. On the whole and even allowing for the catastrophic loss of life and violence of two devastating world wars, there is per capita less violence now than at any point in human history.

I disagree with your genetic moral imperative argument. Genetic proclivity–yes; specific genetic morals–no.

However, I definitely agree that AR has devolved into an unfortunate and possibly unavoidable shill of the “don’t go there” movement championed by those who feel their superior sense of justice and/or morality gives them guardianship of linguistic interaction. Ironically, as a private space, AR absolutely DOES have the right to do so. As it rightly should.

However, after being a part of the old AR community, before whatever change happened during my absence, I can’t possibly engage here with the new tethers on expression in what used to be a venue for free-form engagement with others who have like-minded positions about what is “allowed” in pure and alternative mental intercourse. (I’m thinking “intercourse” might even be a taboo word, here.)

Etymology is a fickle and ever-changing beast of fashion and society. A word you use freely today may be deemed culturally unacceptable tomorrow or the day after. And that’s fine–that’s the way it works. especially when engaging with the unwashed masses of uninspired banality you can find on any other forum out there. This was supposed to be a special place, where people understood that no words need be taken personally and all forms of expression were up for analysis and debate by anyone who wanted to chime in.

If your feelings are hurt by a single word then perhaps philosophical, ethical, sociological, etc. discussions of real substance which explore the deeps of human thought and congruence may not be for you.

EDIT: Leader of the Banned

And yet you just did. :woman_shrugging:t2:

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Old Restrictions? New Restrictions? WTF? Who in the fuck changed everything and didn’t let me know? Dammit! I get so pissed off when shit like that happens. What fucking piss stained inappropriate word am I NOT ALLOWED to use now? This site is just getting tooooo restrictive.

I dunno Cog, what kind of fucking tethers is he talking about? I dont play those tie up games meself but I know that Whitefire is partial to a bit of tethering…

We have word restrictions now? Well, shit! Does that mean I can no longer say fart-nugget? What about koochie juice? And please don’t tell me noodle-slurper is no longer allowed. Fuck! I’m gonna have to change my entire vocabulary. What the hell am I suppose to use to replace twat-twiddler?

As for tethering and rope games, what happens in the bedroom (or kitchen, or garage, or on the stairs…) stays in the bedroom (or kitchen, or garage, or on the stairs…).

That’s what I always thought as well. Then I lost my cookie juice, to a noodle-slurper, when a fart-nugget bounced off the wall and blinded me. We fell down the stairs and right into a twat-twiddler who was twiddling twat right there in the front lobby. If we were not wearing Barney outfits, we would have been recognized. It was a very lucky thing for us that the guy sitting in front of Pee Wee Herman had decided to go to the movies that very same day. And then, make a big stink about being shot in the back of the head or we would have been on the front page instead of him.

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In case it ever come’s up, my safe words are “leave it you cunts”. :innocent: :sunglasses:

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Cool! My safe word is “potato chips.” Not that it does me much good, though. With the ball gag in place it sounds like, “Huh-hay-hoe hiss!” Suffice it to say, things often get carried away.

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SAFE WORDS? No one ever told me there were safe words. You just get tied up and taken advantage of, until Whi… Until the other person is done with you… That’s what I was always told.

Yes and pay no attention to what they are spouting. There’s no need to fix what ain’t broke…

Edit: we’re not quite finished here

Are you addressing me personally? If you are, I can’t imagine what word you mean. I’m the one who can no longer make penis jokes.

If you’re not, then I have another opinion on that. This is a debate forum in which lude penis jokes have no place, and in particular, are unpalatable to certain members of various gender profiles. How DARE you question the feelings of people?

Edited: I’m finding it hard to pretend that I care

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lewd*

edited: to piss ratty off.

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Was referring to the drug. :wink:

Though funnily this sounds like a rather hilarious almost Freudian metaphor.

Or they’re just not that funny, especially when overdone,

I appreciate that not every penis joke is funny. The humour mainly comes from the very fact that I’m making one. They don’t have to be funny to be funny. Not every fart is funny. And yet every fart is funny when one is made.