Principle of sufficient reason and free will

Because we are primates.

Ever watch documentaries. The higher class or dominate primates through birth rank get the best fruit and highest tree positions and eat first. It is then shuffled down from there. Sometimes a primate will change their birth rank.

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@rat_spit is making the spurious assumptions that morals are an objective standard, when they’re clearly not.

To a society based on Nazi ideals mass murder was not immoral.

Chimpanzees live in societal groups and have evolved the ability to differentiate between moral and immoral acts, to make that possible.

Try explaining your concept of morality is absolute to a chimpanzee, or telling an evolutionary biologist that chimpanzees are amoral.

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Could be worse! Hahahaha…

Matthew Hayward, associate professor of conservation biology at the University of Newcastle, Australia, explained to Africa Check that macropods have strong control over their pouch muscles and one of the anti-predator responses in females with larger young is to relax their pouch muscles so the joeys drop out.

The young will lay writhing and hissing on the ground, attracting the predator’s attention, while the mother escapes. “This makes evolutionary sense because the mum is a proven breeder, whereas the young may be infertile,” says Hayward.

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Then you don’t know shit about physics. The initial singularity that developed into the big bang was nothing but energy and heat. Lots of energy, and the calculated temperature was 1000 trillion degrees Celsius soon after the rapid expansion began. I’m not going to waste my time explaining the process to you, but hint: Einstein’s Theory of General Relativity indicates matter can be converted into energy (nuclear bomb) and vice versa.

Another argument from ignorance.

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And what theory is that?

Provide proof, name the theory.

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You’re going to have to rephrase that sentence. If you want an honest reply.

Here’s my answer in any regard. Paul Daniel literally performs illusions using all manner of prop and deception.

And that’s where you lose me. A human cannot conjure the illusion of matter to the degree that an audience member is able to get up touch the object - juggle it in his hands - take a bite out of it etcetera.

Like I said; please rephrase the question. You’re putting words in my mouth and I’m not playing that game with you.

The Only One. What do you want Sheldon? A name.

If you’re asking if he’s one of the ones from polytheistic religions, then no.

To be more precise, he is the one acknowledged by the Jews, Christians, and Sikhs and Muslims.

If you ask “how many mountains are the highest?” The answer is “the one”. There are not two highest mountains. 8849 meters. Called Mount Everest. It is the single highest mountain in the world.

Likewise. If you ask “Which God is the God you refer too?- because there are many.”

Arakish is not here with his list. The God I refer to is the highest one. The pronunciation of his name does not matter. He stands alone. On the top. No other thing can compare.

Has that been cleared up?

Yes. God endows us with it.

I didn’t say that evil wasn’t subjective. I said that “shame” was an outcome of evil. At least in those who have a conscience.

Why do you want three more absolutes?

Tedious as always. I will provide you again with the sense impressions I received from God - you will declare these as insufficient - you will press further. I will not relent. My sense impressions of God are my proof of God. Just as many people are capable of believing that “black swans exist” because they have simply seen them.

But you will continue along your skepticism line of questioning until you feel comfortable calling me a troll.

What exactly is your hesitation in accepting the word of someone who has seen, heard, smelled and known a certain thing? Why is that always insufficient for you?

Give me hard evidence that Dark Energy and Dark Matter exist. The scientific community believes it and yet no one can see it and none of the detection devices can measure it. Is it really there?

And you define good versus evil as a culturally determined artifact.

So enslaving a population of people is evil for the people but perhaps good for the slave owners.

Morality should reward good and punish evil. That is the only way a moral system can have any meaning.

If we believe what you say, there is no need for the term morality. We’ll just call good and evil whatever the majority of people decide it to be.

Garbled anecdotal claims? Now you’re just being mean.

Double standard? Again with the straw man’s.

You saw a video? Was it faked? Can you give me a YouTube link?

I haven’t said that mermaids don’t exist. The probability of them existing is a different type of probability than the existence of God

It is. Unless proven otherwise. I’m not trying to have it both ways.

I know you don’t believe in mermaids. I will suspend my belief until I see that video or hear that anecdote.

Are they invisible? Are they omnipotent? Are they Omniscient?

I haven’t got the slightest clue. You’re the one suggesting these things. But of course! It is I who have shifted the goal posts!

I’m a little naive, Old Man Shouting. When someone tells me they have a thousand bucks in their wallet, I don’t automatically demand to see the money.

So, if you want evidence - then I submit my argument for the insufficiency of a Godless Universe versus the criteria for ANY universe requiring a) an unconditioned element and b) said element with the potency to give matter purpose and function.

My evidence is a philosophical logical argument. Can anyone still arrive at the truth using logic and a love of knowledge - or has truth been confined to the laboratory?

Notice how this can also be read as: “I don’t respond in that vein only to piss him off - of course it does delight me entirely to do so …”

A response from you, Sheldon - would seem incomplete if it didn’t include some kind of round about insult.

If morals do not comply with an objective standard then we are dealing with moral nihilism.

Good should be rewarded. Evil should be punished.

That is not the case in this world, because this world is unjust.

And the origin of said energy and heat need no explanation?

I’ve never seen it given a name. Sartre asked the philosophical question “why something instead of nothing?” in his work “Being and Nothingness”. I was 16 when I realized the world is absurd in its origins.

Since I arrived at the conclusion on my own I can name it “Something from Nothing Paradox”.

Like I said. I came to the conclusion on my own. That same conclusion could be as old as civilization. I wouldn’t know.

In physics, not really (as long as it doesn’t violate dE/dt = 0). You might discuss the probability of such a thing happening, but this probability isn’t 0.

In crackpot, armchair, apologetics metaphysics, (at least the nutters who come here) claim it does need an explanation; but then they claim god doesn’t need an explanation. :woozy_face:

Can you direct me to further reading on this particular topic?

I will pose to you a weird shibboleth:
What is the 2nd derivative with respect to t, of ∏ ln(t) dt dt ?

I know that sounds shitty; but if you can’t answer that in like 2 seconds; the whole thing WILL go over your head. Then you’ll just shrug your shoulders and go back to your nonsense; having successfully wasted my time. You know; one of the ways you troll people here.

I’ll tell you what: you come up with the answer (using any method you can, including asking others), and I’ll discuss it further. I guess I’m not willing to commit to anything so long as I believe you are just going to say “nuh-uh”; you know, what you did in the past?

Off the top of my head those two derivatives should cancel out those two integrals and we arrive at - bodda bing bodda boom …

ln(t)

Right? :grinning:

Wow, awesome!

How is it possible you understand that, but not:

@ rat_spit
Oh, and could you confirm for others; that my question was a “fair” question. In that it was super easy if you understand the concepts (you don’t need to take your shoes off to answer it)? I’ve been accused of “ambushing” people with questions like that.

No. I get calculus.

But that’s an equilibrium equation if I’m not mistaken.

So I’m wondering about the thermodynamics of the Big Bang.

Or, I don’t know.

dE/dt = 0

Means no change in energy over time. So, a closed system with conversation going on - but I’m missing something.

If I created 10 joules of energy AND -10 joules of energy, would that violate dE/dt = 0?

Oh yeah. Fair play, for sure. If it was any harder I wouldn’t have got it :wink:

Very interested. I will get back to this. But it’s my Friday and my shift has ended and I need to get the fuck out of this shit hole and get my drink on.

Cheers!!!

No. It would not. Are we still talking about the early universe?