Missing a rib? Mmmm ribs

Remember that age old lie that all men were born with a rib missing as a way to explain that women came from men and all that awful stuff. Ironically you know what you actually aren’t born with? Kneecaps! This would have been an awesome out for Christians if they only knew a little biology. Imagine being told women came from your Kneecaps but they grow in later. Nah women are more badass than that and men definitely came from them I know I did.

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I meant for this to go in random fun oops :face_with_peeking_eye:

I moved it for you. :grin:

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To be more correct, humans are born with a soft, cartilaginous patellla, which ossifies over a period of time from the age of four onwards.

But, I have to admit that I only just learned this, upon performing the requisite fact checking. A little piece of information my otherwise splendid biology classes appear to have missed out upon …

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The story from Genesis about Eve coming from Adam’s rib is an excellent illustration of Biblical hipocrasy.

Almost every religious leader in the Evangelical world rallys against LGBTQ+ people, yet sex reassignment surgery has a Biblical precedent when we consider Eve’s origin.

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Hah, that’s quite a novel and interesting take on it, and I like your thinking. I’ll have to try to remember that one :rofl:

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This would just be subjected to special pleading because god has the monopoly on gender reassignment surgery. God gets to do a lot of things that are forbidden to his own followers. It’s only immoral if it’s not God doing it.

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I’ m not sure when I realized that men had to have 1 few ribs than women because the bible said so, but it was before I became an atheist.

And I’m not sure when I realized that men actually had the same number of ribs as women, but it was after I became an atheist. My reaction was one of… “Oh, yeah. I wish I’d known that before I went through my conversion. That would have made it soooo much easier.”

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What about wisdom teeth? :joy:

I didn’t get them. Yay!

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Amaizing thoughts here

I wonder if chimpanzees, bonobos, or gorillas go through a similar process with their patellas.

Now that’s something I’ll have to look up … !!!

EDIT: Just found an informative peer reviewed scientific paper that will make for interesting bedtime reading. :slight_smile:

I have had three removed, and the fourth lets me know it is there occasionally, and unhappy about it.

Statistics about third molar agenesis are all over the place, varying widely based on ethnicity, geography, sex, and of course, sample size. The worldwide average appears to be somewhere around 22% of folks are missing one or more of them. (I read that indigenous Mexicans rank at nearly 100%.)

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i lied before I got out of the army and said they hurt so i got them pulled for free lol

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Getting back to the Genesis story, I believe it is a poetic verse on a time when we were switching from being hunter-gatherers to agriculturalists.

Please consider:

In Eden, every need was automatically provided. Consider that hunter-gatherers have much, much more leisure time than any serious attempt at agriculture, and Adam and Eve were cast out of their primal garden and made to till the land.

To me, this sounds like hunter-gatherers who were cast out of their tribe, and forced into agricultural slavery and/or some other form of involuntary servitude.

Perhaps part of the Genesis story remembers–in dim, poetic, and metaphoric terms–past Ice Age giants like the Wolley Rhino of Eurasia, the mammoths, and giant aurochs when it mentions how there were giants in those days (and I apologize for not providing the specific verse, I will get it later because I exhausted, and too tired to sleep).

I’ve had two removed and not one ever turned into a gorgeous female…DARN!!

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