Yeah although I disagree with him that Christians wouldnât want to own slaves, because the Bible, while it doesnât exactly promote slavery, accepts it as a given and instructs slaves to be obedient to their masters and counsels slave owners how much they can beat a slave without sinning. So ⊠guys like this are (not) seeing what they (donât) want to see based on an elevated secular morality that has long since moved on from chattel slavery.
Still, if all preachers had these views, Christians would be much less assholish and bigoted, and would more or less fit into civil society, and might even be pulled along by it.
Exodus 21? Iâd also take a look at Numbers 31, and the bible depicting a deity actively encouraging the Hebrews to take sex slaves from ethnic cleansing wars against the Midianites.
32 The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep, 33 72,000 cattle, 34 61,000 donkeys 35and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.
Hard to argue those were not sex slaves, though to be fair there is no shortage of BS from apologists claiming exactly that.
Which ultimately excuses Israelâs appalling ethnic cleansing wars of the present, I suppose. Yeah that is why I used the word âexactlyâ, you can to an extent hide behind âthat was then this is nowâ fig leaf rhetoric but even if you do, the fact remains that when sane people wanted to get the US, or, earlier, the UK, out of the slave trade, they were surprised to find that the Bible offered no help in appealing to Christians that slavery was evil. The Bible regards it as an unremarkable feature of society, not a bug.
Quite the opposite was true in fact, with rich white Christian planation owners being reassured that slavery was actively condoned by the deity depicted in the bible. It takes some mental gymnastics to ignore that fact of course, but ironically even though it is risible when they simply ignore what the text literally says, part of me is grateful they do, as the alternative of people clinging to barbarically cruel archaic religious texts, is still all too real in many places around the world.
more irony in that Jewish people, of all people would see the inherent danger in the idea that a deity favours one group above others, and thus removed the moral obligation we all should have towards every other human on the planet. Itâs no accident that Christian fundamentalism and rampant Nationalism so often go hand in hand.
Iâm saying this as an atheist: most of the comparisons to Horus are false, Horus was told to have done many miracles but do not reflect perfectly to Christianity like your meme suggests. I point this out because if we was to use that info in a debate against a Christian and said Christian had done research on this they would tear that meme to the ground and win a round in that argument and put reasonable doubt on the atheist claims