Your cousin sounds like a really awful person.
If you feel that transgenderism does not have a biological basis, then consider Kleinfelter syndrome.
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The paper titled âIdentity Politics: The Sex/Gender Controversy Is Unusual but Not Uniqueâ by David Pilgrim addresses the contentious debate surrounding sex, gender, and identity politics, primarily focusing on the British cultural context. The author explores whether the unresolved dispute between sex and gender is unique or indicative of broader issues related to identity politics.
Key points of the paper include:
- The Sex/Gender Debate: The controversy is seen as unusually divisive but not unique, as it shares similarities with other identity-based conflicts (e.g., race, sexuality).
- Impact of Identity Politics: The paper discusses how identity politics, including transgender activism, has influenced public policy and social discourse. The author argues that while issues like transgender rights seem to dominate public and media attention, they represent a small part of the population.
- Critical Realism: Pilgrim uses the philosophical lens of critical realism to understand how the current sex/gender conflict emerged, focusing on biological reality versus subjective identity claims.
- Psychological Aspects: The paper also touches on the psychological dimensions of identity politics, including the role of emotions and personal experience in shaping the intense nature of these debates.
Regarding the question of whether identity politics has influenced the shift from classifying psychological identity disorders to gender dysphoria, the paper discusses how transgender activism has reframed medical and psychiatric perspectives. There is a push for depathologizing gender dysphoria while still advocating for medical interventions like hormones and surgery, unlike in the case of homosexuality, which was removed from the DSM as a disorder. Pilgrim notes that this shift in framing is part of identity politicsâ broader impact on medical practice and public policy.
In short, identity politics has contributed to changing perceptions of gender dysphoria, framing it as a legitimate personal identity rather than a psychological disorder.
HmmmâŠ.does the author suggest, then, that since âtheyâ represent a small part of the population that the bigotry with which âtheyâ are treated is less than important? That it doesnât signal pervasive social issues? That folks who do not identify as average in their sexuality are not deserving of our attention?
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So what? How does it make one bit of difference?
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They seem to have fooled some prestigious elite psychiatric associations and their members as well then. However before we get too excited, can you demonstrate any objective evidence to support your claim? Sorry to be pedantic on this point, but otherwise Iâd have to start believing every piece of rhetoric anyone cared to write. I may as well just hoover up YouTube for every crackpot conspiracy I can find. Did you know Pearl Harbour was an inside job?
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Note:
Gender Dysphoria (GD) > Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID)
Understanding psychology is complex; hastily jumping to conclusions or rushing into treatments can harm patients.
Gender Dysphoria and Dissociative Identity Disorder: A Case Report and Review of Literature
The article presents a case of a man diagnosed with DID who initially sought hormonal treatment for GD. After a thorough assessment, the patient began psychotherapy for DID instead. The review included articles, highlighting the prevalence of DID in GD samples and the challenges in providing care for patients with both conditions. The complexity of distinguishing between GD and DID is emphasized, as some patients initially diagnosed with GD were later found to have DID.
However, the change from âidentity disorderâ to âdysphoriaâ in the DSM-5 reflects a shift towards a more nuanced understanding of gender-related experiences, focusing on the distress and discomfort associated with gender incongruence rather than just the identity aspect. This change was made to better reflect the distress and impairment experienced by individuals rather than focusing solely on identity.
Despite increased attention to transgender people, the first two editions of DSM contained no mention of gender identity. It was not until 1980 with the publication of DSMâIII that the diagnosis âtranssexualismâ first appeared. In 1990, the World Health Organization followed suit and included this diagnosis in ICD-10. With the release of DSMâIV in 1994, âtranssexualismâ was replaced with âgender identity disorder in adults and adolescentsâ in an effort to reduce stigma. However, controversy continued with advocates and some psychiatrists pointing to ways in which this diagnostic category pathologized identity rather than a true disorder.
With the publication of DSMâ5 in 2013, âgender identity disorderâ was eliminated and replaced with âgender dysphoria.â This change further focused the diagnosis on the gender identity-related distress that some transgender people experience (and for which they may seek psychiatric, medical, and surgical treatments) rather than on transgender individuals or identities themselves. Gender Dysphoria Diagnosis
A Case for multiple diagnosis
Case 1: Mark is convinced that he is Robert. Despite being shown evidence to the contrary, including pictures, Robertâs life events, and family, which are not his own, he maintains this belief with absolute certainty. This situation describes a delusion, particularly one involving a mistaken identity.
Case 2: Frank believes he is Lucy, Despite being shown evidence to the contrary, including pictures, Lucyâs life events, and family, which are not his own, he maintains this belief with absolute certainty.
This situation describes a delusion, particularly one involving a mistaken identity.
Case 3: 1. Tommy believes he is Jenny. He was presented with evidence that he was not Jenny at all including pictures, Jennyâs life events, and family, which are not his own, he maintains this belief with absolute certainty. This is definitely a Mistaken identity. However, the below is not, there is a difference:
- Since he has male genitalia, Even a DNA test to show he has an XY sex chromosome combination where Jenny has XX and female genitalia. Even after showing the conclusive evidence, Tommy believes he is Jenny with utmost conviction.
Could this scenario be characterized as a delusion?
A delusion is a false belief held with strong conviction, even when presented with evidence to the contrary.
The arguments presented above illustrate that the distinction between delusion and gender dysphoria is subtle and complex.
I am open to all forms of self-identification, as we live in a world where free speech is a right. Discrimination, mockery, and trolling are nothing but arrogant and uncultured behaviors. Please do not judge me based on these comments; they may not necessarily reflect my personal views. I intend to present facts and reasons.
Itâs interesting how people can be so blind to objective evidence based on their ideological (political) polarity.
Anyone in the world has their own convictions and beliefs. If one believes there is a God he has some utility in that belief regardless of whether there is a God. If a set of people flocks around a Totem and offers food and drinks for their prosperity to the totem that ritual has the utmost beauty to it since it was manifested over social norms, culture, and cohesion. I am fascinated by these social phenomena. However, the problem comes when they start believing everyone should do the same, and worship their Totem/God, or their ideology in this case. Using the same logic, mocking God or a Totem is ineffective. Similarly, ridiculing woke ideology is also ineffective. However, such behavior may contribute to minority stress, which is indeed a significant concern.
Minority stress refers to the chronic stress experienced by members of stigmatized minority groups due to prejudice, discrimination, and social marginalization. This stress can lead to adverse mental and physical health outcomes.
However, being a minority in a society can lead to the perception of discrimination (which may be seen as a collective delusion?) even in a society that is pluralistic and liberal. The Dartmouth Scar Experiment, was conducted by Robert Kleck at Dartmouth University. In this study, participants were told that a scar was drawn on their faces, but in reality, the makeup was removed before they left the room. The participants reported experiencing discrimination based on the non-existent scar. Another study published in Frontiers in Psychology examined the role of perceived discrimination as a mediator between cultural identity and mental health symptoms among racial/ethnic minority adults in the US. The findings show a significant impact of discrimination on mental health.
So, The author of the OP may have some good points, but I donât have enough English proficiency to figure out if that is mockery or stating a genuine argument. It would be more informative and educational to present facts and evidence from both perspectives instead of engaging in a blame game. Just a thought.
Like this one you mean?
That sweeping claim seems like a hasty conclusions you leaped to. I wasnât aware I had leaped to any conclusions here, hasty or otherwise.
These are not my conclusions; they were drawn by David Pilgrim.
I didnât see you disagreeing with it, and you quoted it, and since the way it was framed seemed a rather hasty generalisation to me, that is at odds with the current psychiatric consensus, I pointed this out. I am not clear what hasty conclusion you think I have leaped to?
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I do not know how t quote, anyway, from Kevin Levites
"Your cousin sounds like a really awful person.
If you feel that transgenderism does not have a biological basis, then consider Kleinfelter syndrome."
Of course I know Kleinfelter syndrome, I know it quite well.Iand I can tell you that the incidence on the males is estimated to be 1 in 650, with at least half of them (65% to be precise) not showing symptoms, thus they will never be diagnosed in life, neither as kids nor and adults.
I usually always start from mass balance and energy balance when I observe phenomenons in my life, and if these balances are at odds something wring is in our assumptions/justifications.
I read that in the US the % of people that identifies as transgenders is roughloy 0,6% with a significant higher population in youngs
That means to my reasoning thart ether we have a spike in Klinefelder cases or Klinefelder it is not a significant explanation.
There is more and more concern that endocrine disruptors are one of the causes, and this is so far the more likely biological explanations, with softeners in plastics one of the possible causes.
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I donât disagree with your reasoning about chemicals from plastics contributing to transgenderism.
A point that I should have clarified in my post when I mentioned Kleinfelterâs is that if there is one biological condition that can contribute to transgenderism, then there are other conditions that can also do this that we donât grasp and/or understand yet.
The intent of my post is that trying to âfixâ transgenderism in a child is like forcing a left-handed kid to write with the right hand.
Forcing kids to change handedness has resulted in learning disabilities, speech problems, etc., and I suggest that it is the same when trying to force transgender kids to change who they are.
Gender-affirming care has been demonstrated to reduce suicide rates, while conversion therapy has been demonstrated to increase suicide risk.
I am making these points as a registered nurse, and not as a âwokeâ liberal snowflake . . . whatever the hell that means.
P.S.: One interesting point about conversion therapy is that kids who go through this seem to have a higher suicide risk than kids with alcoholism, or kids who have terminal cancer.
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Here are some links that you guys can use to fact-check my claims, and I sincerely hope someone calls me on my assertions if you think Iâm pushing bullshit.
Williams Institute
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu âș âŠ
LGB people who have undergone conversion therapy almost twice as âŠ
National Institutes of Health (NIH) (.gov)
Suicide Risk and Addiction: The Impact of Alcohol and Opioid Use âŠ
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Here a well done article that explains with data that âgender reaffirmingâ surgery increases the risk of suicide compared to people do not have gender reaffirming surgery.
Of course it can be due to not enough post operation psychotherapy sessions, but it is pointing us that favoring gender reaffirmation surgery may nbot be the best option for every patient. My perception is that we have way more âbiasedâ approach to the topic.
Or maybe as I used to say I am just old, (old enough to have seen Nirvana playing live) but in my youth Boy George (Boy George - Wikipedia) was just a great artist, we did not know if he was male or female, we just liked his songs, same for Amanda Lear (Amanda Lear - Wikipedia) so I do not understand why this subject is so important to so many people
SighâŠperhaps I just missed it, but the groups used in this study were not limited to people with diagnosed gender dysphoria. So, the comparison was folks from the general population vs. folks who had gender reassignment surgery.
That, imo, does not indicate that gender reassignment surgery itself increases the risk of suicide.
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Thank you. The overwhelming number of people who have had gender reassignment surgery have been very satisfied with the results.
Some people have been unhappy with their results, but this is true of any surgery and any medical procedure. As an example, just because a person may be unhappy with their face lift doesnât mean that all face lifts should be banned.
We should learn about why the patient is unhappy with the results, and we should use the patientâs dissatisfaction as an opportunity to refine the procedure and the process by which clients are selected for the procedure.
None of this means that gender transition procedures should be abandoned.
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The War On Children (2024), directed by Robby Starbuck
The War on Children (2024) - IMDb
The documentary claims that left-wing activists, big tech companies, and the entertainment industry are indoctrinating and exploiting children. It opposes gender-affirming care, featuring interviews with critics like Rand Paul and Riley Gaines. The film shows issues such as child trafficking, online pornography, and the influence of social media. It criticizes the (perceived) Marxist domination of public education. Finally, the documentary aims to raise awareness and inspire action to protect children from these threats. I say perceived here since people seem to believe that.
Would I say eye-opening or another hoax? What do you think?
I am not an American so I have no agreement or opposition to these ideas, however, culturally South Asian people like Sri Lankans do not entertain the Woke agenda or LGBT⊠liberalism. At least not yet. But it appears there is a push from the West to do so.
The fall of men (the rise of women is not the problem here), the Fall of the well-structured family, the Fall of marriage, the reluctance to make sacrifices for the people you loveâŠ
These are signs of a collapsing society, where children do not get a good family environment, or education without agendas where facts and truth are valued.
What is the Woke agenda? Please provide a list of what you think it contains.
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oh wow, the nutters are capitalizing it now!
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Have you ever noticed the people who making such sweeping facile claims, run away from requests to evidence it, as fast as religious apologists run away from requests for them to demonstrate some objective evidence any deity exists, or is possible? Itâs uncannyâŠ
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