Is Panpsychism evidence for God?

Straw man fallacy.

Straw man fallacy.

…and it is unfalsifiable.

…it has no explanatory powers, that was one of the other major objections to it, it is entirely unsupported by objective evidence, and it is unfalsifiable. I invite anyone to read the other objections that @JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU has ignored, and clearly wants to move quickly away from.

Please stop lying about what I have and have not claimed.

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Don’t you EVER refer to me in any term anywhere near that again. It was rude, over-familiar, and disrespectful. You owe me an apology.

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Reread this and ask yourself if, with it, you were flying the asshole flag.

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  1. Yes, chemical processes do indeed happen outside of the brain. That’s not news to me. Do you consider all chemical processes to be duplicates of each other, or even similar?
  2. I don’t believe that what is happening inside my brain is happening outside of it. I’m pretty sure that there are not dopamine or serotonin in my dining room table.
  3. You actually haven’t any idea what I perceive or understand. That’s awfully presumptuous of you.

:horse::poop:

If you are equating qualia with consciousness, then, as I’ve said before, I account for it. My dog accounts for it. Perhaps even you do.

(You might ask why I qualified that last sentence with the word perhaps. Well, based on what you’ve written, your persona could very well be AI that is clownishly masquerading as a human on a debate forum.)

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I don’t know who you are, but remember that your words often reveal more about you than about others.

And yet you used a word that was rudely familiar. Are you refusing to apologize for it as requested?

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Of course, I will apologize for any unintentional offense, but tell me…

Is this offensive?

Apologize now for the misogynistic term you used to refer to me or there will be consequences.

Obviously, there is no misogynistic connotation in my words—not just in the intention, but also based on all the Google definitions of ‘oh dear’ that I’ve seen, which imply surprise or disappointment, not anything misogynistic.

On the other hand, the phrase ‘Reread this and ask yourself if, with it, you were flying the asshole flag’ from you is clearly offensive and rude.

I will only apologize if the same rules are applied to everyone equally.

Thank you

FFS! You did not write “oh dear”. You wrote “My dear”.

There is a substantial difference between using a term that it misogynistic and using what some folks may call a curse word.

These two things are not equal.

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Oh! Then I made a mistake. :man_facepalming: Sorry about that.

But obviously, I now expect the same from you. Thank you.

And I also demand the same from Sheldon.

“The problems with panpsychism are at least fourfold: the theory is untestable, there’s no evidence for consciousness of inanimate matter, there’s no explanation how the “rudimentary” consciousness of molecules and atoms can combine to produce to the complex consciousness of humans and (surely) other mammals, and we have made no progress in understanding consciousness by considering or adhering to panpsychism. It seems to be a view that, ultimately, will not help us understand consciousness.”

Sean M. Carroll CITATION

“Sean Michael Carroll is an American theoretical physicist and philosopher who specializes in quantum mechanics, cosmology, and the philosophy of science. He is the Homewood Professor of Natural Philosophy at Johns Hopkins University.”

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You’ll not get it from me. The word asshole is perfectly acceptable in this forum.
Note that I didn’t call you an asshole.

No… I demand an apology from you for calling me a troll, saying that my ideas are idiotic, and so on.

Remember, the same rules apply to everyone.

After that, we can proceed. Thank you

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So, you’re not going to apologize for (trying to) offend others?

Does that mean you don’t apply the same rules that you demand from me?

‘Asshole’ is acceptable, but ‘my dear’ is not?

Could you please list what kinds of offenses are permissible here and which are not?

Just to be clear, I will now replace ‘my dear’ with ‘asshole’ because, according to what you said, this is permissible.

Do you agree?

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Cool, let me know how that works out for you pal. Given your relentless dishonesty it was reasonable to speculate that you might be trolling. I can’t help you on calling some of your claims idiotic, as they demonstrably were. The one about us never seeing future events sticks in the mind, every event I’ve experienced in my life was at one point in the future, it was a spectacularly stupid claim.

Proceed to what, you endlessly repeating the same irrational arguments, and unevidenced claims ad infinitum, while dishonestly ignoring the responses, if you’re threatening to take this away, I’m fine with that. I still think you came here to preach, and not debate.

FYI my post wasn’t in reply to anyone specifically, it was for everyone to read, if they are minded to do so. I never for a moment expected an honest response from you, as you haven’t done this throughout the discourse.

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No, I don’t agree. You forgot to include, “Note that I didn’t call you an asshole,” in the quote.

You need to drop this.

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Ok then let’s replace “My dear” by:

Reread this and ask yourself if you were flying the asshole flag with it, because this problem goes both ways. Oh, and your ideas are idiotic.

Much better now, right? Do you agree? Should I replace it?

Yes, it clearly makes the discussion far more polite and correct. Congratulations.

@JESUS_IS_WITH_YOU is taking a couple of days off.

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